Friday, January 17, 2014

[Avid-L2] Re: I hate Fonts, I feel a song coming on!!!

 

I received an add for Trans Type 4 today. I have Trans Type 3 and have used it with some success but I'm always confused by the differences in how various programs read or don't read fonts and the always exciting Title Tool doesn't see it but Marquis does and vice versa. In the ad they mention what I think is at the root of many of the font issues I've had. From the ad:

"Font families are a pain. The names all have to be consistent. There are six different name fields to fill for each font - each with its own syntax and rules. One misstep and it's like a glaringly wrong note in a beautiful sonata. TransType 4 fixes all that. Like a great conductor it gets all the fonts to work together ; smoothly synchronizes all the naming; and coaches all the fonts to play together in beautiful harmony. And it's all automatic and transparent. You don't even need to know about the existence of name fields, let alone their complications."

In Trans Type 3 there is a to add unique "Menu Names" to Fonts which seems to allow Title Tool to see different members of a Font Family. In the Past I've found a font suitcase or family with say 6 Fonts but in title tool only one shows up. The only fix I've had at those times was to manually remove all the fonts from the family but the one I want and then it works with the generic name of the family. I'm thinking this new TransType 4 is taking these matters into it's own hands but I'm always on the look out for anyone who can explain more of the nuts and bolts of Fonts and how the appear in various graphic programs etc...

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:
>
> I ended up taking the .ttc into Trans Type Pro and converting to .otf's. I also changed the menu names in a properties tab to reflect each member of the family. By default the menu names all said "American Typewriter" while the PhotShop names were unique. A button in the properties box in Trans Type Pro chaned the menu names to reflect - bold, - condensed, etc... I've often had font families that only one font from the family shows up in Title Tool. This menu name then showed up with all the choices in Title Tool. I don't know if it's what I did or just dumb luck. Can anyone explain why the menu name of a font would differ from the PhotoShop name? Did I mention I HATE FONTS!!!!
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Hedberg <jeff@> wrote:
> >
> > John,
> > I have no rhyme... have you tried .ttf ?
> > I see you mentioned .ttc but not .ttf (true type).
> >
> > That one usually works for us in MC's title tool.
> >
> > ------------------
> > Jeff Hedberg
> >
> > Director of Operations
> > Union Editorial
> > 575 Broadway,6th floor
> > New York, NY 10012
> >
> > On Oct 9, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Lou Wirth <loutv@> wrote:
> >
> > > I'M WITH YOU
> > >
> > > HATE FONTS TOO
> > > HAVE OTF
> > > AVID SAYS "NOT YOU"
> > >
> > > I CANT USE AVID FOR GRAPHICS MUCH
> > > I HAVE TO USE AE FOR CARDS AND SUCH
> > > DID YOU EVER SEE SUCH A BUNCH OF *&^%
> > > I'M WITH YOU
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lou Wirth Productions
> > > 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
> > > Corte Madera, CA 94925
> > > www.louwirth.com
> > > 415-924-9411p
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Oct 9, 2013, at 6:48 PM, John Moore <bigfish@> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> (To the tune of 3 blind mice)
> > >>
> > >> I HATE FONTS
> > >> SEE HOW THE SUCK
> > >> I LOAD THEM UP USING FONT BOOK
> > >> BUT IN AVID I SAY WTF?
> > >>
> > >> I HATE FONTS
> > >> I HATE FONTS
> > >> SEE HOW THEY BLOW
> > >> I CONVERT THEM IN TRANS TYPE PRO
> > >> BUT IN AVID THEY'RE STILL A NO GO
> > >>
> > >> I HATE FONTS
> > >> I HATE FONTS
> > >> ON MY MACPRO V6.5.3 I LOAD UP A .TTC (TRUE TYPE COLLECTION) WITH GLEE
> > >> ONLY TO BE DISAPPOINTED IN AVID WHERE THE FONTS IN TITLE TOOL I CAN'T SEE
> > >>
> > >> I HATE FONTS
> > >> I HATE FONTS
> > >> FINALLY IN TRANS TYPE PRO I CONVERT THE .TTC TO OTFs
> > >> AND GIVE THEM UNIQUE MENU NAMES TO AVOID MORE REGRETS
> > >> MUCH TO MY JOY THE FONTS NOW SHOW UP
> > >> BUT ONCE AGAIN I FIND MYSELF SAYING WTF?
> > >>
> > >> I HATE FONTS
> > >> I HATE FONTS
> > >>
> > >> Why does this have to be such a constant cluster Flop?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> John Moore
> > >> Barking Trout Productions
> > >> Studio City, CA
> > >> bigfish@
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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