I should mention that I normally work in an Interplay environment. That
is a slightly different world with its own advantages and headaches.
Also, 90% of my work is online editing of other people's shows.
I do my best to avoid having to relink to the original AMA clips. I
have had to do it for various reasons, including major accidental media
deletions. I'd say that about 80% of the clips can be relinked with
absolutely no issues. The rest need help and a few just need to be
recut into the sequence. Here's what I recommend to editors in our
shop. Most of our stuff is either longform or at least fairly long
turnaround. Media can be in use for years. This workflow is good for
most projects but it's only a suggestion. Use any little bits that
sound helpful.
Put in a disk and let AMA create and populate a bin. Name that bin the
same as what's on the disk label. String together a sequence (or
sequences) of selects from the disk. Consolidate or transcode the
sequence. Move the newly created clips to whatever bins you want them
in. Close and keep the AMA bin. If you rename the new clips, keep the
Cxxxx as part of the clip name. If you use clip names like "John Moore
Interview.Cxxxx" you will be able to CC using clip name in Symphony.
Repeat for the next disk.
There are several advantages to working this way, aside from using less
storage for media. Almost 100% of the time, when you insert a disk that
you've used in your show, the original AMA clips and sequence will pop
back online. If you do have to manually relink something, you have a
good foundation. Keeping the Cxxxx in the clip name on the new clips
just gives you another trail of breadcrumbs in case you have to manually
find a specific clip.
If you want (need) to offline in XDCam and online in DNxHD, I would
still use the steps I listed (consolidate the clips rather than
transcode) and then, when you're getting ready to online, transcode your
edited sequence. It's exactly the same treatment of the media but you
never have to relink. --J.B.
johnrobmoore wrote:
> So let's just say I take a single XDCam disk and put it in the U1 and transcode to offline res without doing anything. I then offline. Now in online I take the sequence and open it up. I mount the same original XDCam disk in the U1 and it populates a bin with clips. Is the sequence going to just magically come on line or do I have to relink to selected highlight clips or some other relink option.
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> Assuming that works then what do with a show with 20 XDCam disks all named untitled at the desktop level and all the clips starting with C001,C002 etc.... Do I open the sequence and one by one load the XDCam disks and consolidate or transcode to online res? I don't see how else that would work. With each successive disk more media would come online. Or do I have to open the original ama bins and insert the matching XDCam disk so the clips in the original bin come back on line. I have seen how once populated if I reinsert the source XDCam they do come back online if a few moments. Will that work better or is it the only way it works requiring the original ama bins?
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> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, John Beck<jb30343@...> wrote:
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>> y experience has been that usually the clips know their lineage and can be relinked to the original without any problem. If you keep your original AMA bin, those clips will almost always pop right back online when you reinsert their original disk. I do have a question. If you're consolidating the XDCam media to your regular storage, why would you want to transcode it for your online edit? If it was shot as XDCam, transcoding won't make it look better. You will avoid some sluggishness that comes with long timelines and long gop media but that seems like more of an issue in offline than it is in online. The other main advantage of DNxHD is that you can export QT reference movies. I'm having trouble imagining a scenario where the trouble of transcoding and relinking would be worth it just for the online. --J.B.
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>> ---- johnrobmoore<bigfish@...> wrote:
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>>> So I have reconciled myself to the fact that the way to mount the XDCam ama clips is to set ama to active bin. Open a target bin and make it the selected bin. Then insert the XDCam disk and it magically populates the bin with the ama'd clips.
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>>> I then add a tape name which I also put in the disk label and the clip name. Then I consolidate to a volume. My understanding is this rewraps the XDCam native codec essence in an Avid friendly .mxf file and I believe this will "embed" the added tape name etc... into the consolidate media files. As far as I know that makes a file just as robust as if I captured from tape.
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>>> One curiosity I found after they consolidated all the disks overnight is that some of the consolidated clips don't have the tape names. In some cases it's 2 clips out of a disk with 4 clips that don't have tape names. I'm wondering if when I cmd "." to stop half way through the consolidation when I picked up the remaining 2 clips that the act of stopping half way through had an impact on the missing tape names etc... of about 3 of 60 clips. I could see if I unmounted and remounted the ama'd XDCam clips I would lose the added tape name but I don't think I did that in this case. Some might be operator error but has anybody seen added tape names etc.... stop being embedded halfway through a consolidate?
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>>> Now many have suggested there is no longer a need to add tape names as the XDCam is robust etc... Having checked with multiple people I was told by people who do tons of XDCam they do exactly the same steps I'm taking to avoid issues.
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>>> I think the way the clips popualte the active bin "magically" has perhaps made me more paranoid than I should be so I welcome others experience.
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>>> Can someone talk me off the ledge here? Each XDCam shows up as "Untitled" on the desk top and all the clip names start at C001, C002 etc... for every disk. With no tape name, disk label and common clip names how could I ever do an offline/online workflow just amaing to the XDCam disks and transcoding to offline resolution? Is there a magical UMID under the hood that would magically tell me what dick to put in when up rezzing? Also it would mean putting in one diak at a time and transcoding to dnx 220 for online. This would mean just inserting the XDCam disk would somehow link it to the sequence right? I feel more comfortable going the long way around here, am I nuts?
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