Tuesday, October 29, 2013

Re: [Avid-L2] Avid Laptop

 

More Clarification… There's no mention of the hack working for AGP or Intel graphics.  

That said, I have no idea how the 64bit rewrite of MC 7 addresses the world of the "avid component processing library" on a PC.  It could be that, for some effects, a quad-core CPU and faster bus can make up for what a GPU may refuse to do. 

Until someone tries it, it's really a question for the engineers, and crash test dummies. 

RT
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On Oct 29, 2013, at 9:43 AM, Mark Santora <mrsantora@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Wow.  I didn't know about the hack for the drivers.  Thanks Dom!

Mark

On Oct 29, 2013 12:35 PM, "Dom Q. Silverio" <domqsilverio@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Clarification about PC, Avid and GPUs.

In general, Avid will work with any semi-modern consumer (GeForce) or professional GPU (Quadro / QuadroFX).  This means you will get overlay video playback (Composer window and "Full SCreen Playback" are GPU bound versus CPU), acceleration of any green dot and OpenGL based FX.

If the qualified packaged Avid drivers do not work, download the newer one from NVidia's website. Usually, this applies to newer mobile GPUs since their hardware/vendor ID may not be included in that particular release of the Avid driver package.

If you deviate from Avid's qualified GPU and/or drivers, the only downside as far as I know, is the disabling of the ACPL technology. This is Avid's own additional GPU based processing for certain FX.

HOWEVER, there is a workaround and similar to Adobe Premiere CS 5 Mercury Playback Engine "hack" all it requires is a modification of a text file that contains the qualified GPU and drivers list.


http://community.avid.com/forums/p/102425/590057.aspx#590057


For my GeForce 660Ti GPU, I added the line
NVIDIA Corporation--GeForce 660 Ti/PCI/SSE2 : NVIDIA : 660 : 320.49

Removing "320.49" will result in Media Composer accepting ANY Nvidia drivers for ACPL.


HTH

Dom Q. Silverio


On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Mark Santora <mrsantora@gmail.com> wrote:



Richard,

That's the reason I asked.  If I can add battery life buy using a new integrated GPU on the die (like they are using it on the new Macbooks), then it'd be something for me to consider.  Of course, the Macbook is $2000 and I can build something that uses the same hardware but slower to my needs for about a grand less.

Anyway, I was getting ready to pull the trigger on the HP laptop simply because of the 12 months no interest if paid off in a year.

Mark

On Oct 29, 2013 11:28 AM, "Richard Tibbetts" <huipro@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
 

This is the GPU series being used in the new retina MacBook Pros.  Guaranteed to work there, but not on the PC.  As usual. 

It's really a question for avid to answer, but I can tell you that the more exotic or custom the PC build, the more likely it is that MC will have issues with it.  

Working in a 64-bit environment adds a few new twists too.  

RT
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On Oct 29, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Mark Santora <mrsantora@gmail.com> wrote:

 

And the Saga continues...

Well last week I asked for some help regarding picking up a mid range laptop that would run Avid (but not it's primary usage).  I'd whittled it down to the Asus and HP models with Nvidia g750 graphics when I came across this.

http://www.sagernotebook.com/index.php?page=product_customed&model_name=NP2740

I know Sager from a time long ago when I use to game a lot more.  But The reason this caught my eye was the graphic processor - the Intel Pro Iris 5200.  I haven't seen it anywhere else yet.  And I understand it's supposed to be quite powerful.  I was wondering if anyone had any information on how the Avid would react to this latest iteration of the Intel Graphics. 

Thanks
Mark

On Oct 24, 2013 6:55 PM, "namyrb" <namyrb@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Why not check out the 15" T530 Thinkpad?  Starts at $765.  I've been using Thinkpads for years and have had no problems.  I've passed 4 of my old models down to friends and family (one of which extensively uses his for Maya and Zbrush) and nobody's ever had a problem with them.  Just make sure you get the SSD.  If it matters to you, I've also installed an extensive amount of Linux OSs on them and they've all worked very well.  


A few other cool things... 
The waterproof keyboard.  They've got canals built in that drain spills down and out the bottom, even while powered on.  
Upgrading Optical, HDD, and RAM is made to be quick and done repeatedly.  
There's a light that shoots out toward the keyboard that's cool if you need to look at papers while you're in the dark.  
.... Fingerprint reader.
If you decide to go with an HDD, there's also a feature that senses any significant impact and immediately shuts off the HDD's moving parts to limit the possibility of damage.

As far as Avid goes, I just cut about 20 character reels on a W530 and an Intuos5 without any problems.  


On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 5:29 PM, owen <owen@thenowcorporation.com> wrote:
 

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Owen 

On Oct 24, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Dave Spraker <avid@spraker.tv> wrote:

 

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From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Tibbetts
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 12:27 PM
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Avid Laptop

None of which you are going to see with a new apple laptop. :-(

I don't know how well MC7 runs on the low end MBPs with Intel graphics, but if you price out the 15" with Nvidia card and decent RAM, etc. you'll find yourself close to the price of the incredible new MacPro @ $3000.

Compared to a premium-priced non-upgradable MBP, the PC laptops look pretty compelling again.

Not that I want to use one. But the media composer application doesn't care how thin your bezel is, or if you have an elegant UI. It wants graphic power.

RT

On Oct 24, 2013, at 5:59 AM, Bogdan Grigorescu <bogdan_grigorescu@yahoo.com <mailto:bogdan_grigorescu@yahoo.com> > wrote:

There are ways of getting it at lower price:

-order with minimal HDD and RAM, upgrade with aftermarket parts

-watch for their frequent sales, ecoupons, etc.

-see if you can get Barnes&Noble or employee/family&friends extra discounts

have fun,

BG

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From: Tony Quinsee-Jover <tony@hdheaven.co.uk <mailto:tony@hdheaven.co.uk> >
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 8:40 AM
Subject: RE: [Avid-L2] Avid Laptop

Out of interest, I just customized one to that spec here: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/w-series/w530/#customize

It comes out at $2141 US

T.

From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bogdan Grigorescu
Sent: 24 October 2013 16:32
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Avid Laptop

Hi Mark, I can highly recommend the ThinkPad W530, as I own one:

-quadcore i7 3720QM CPU

-Crucial M4 128GB SSD

-16GB DDR3 1600 RAM

-NVidia Quadro K2000 graphics(+intel4000 embedded chip for less demanding stuff and prolonged battery)

-1920x1080 FHD screen with 95% color gamut

-USB3 + miniDP+GigE ports

-Intel 6300 WiFi+BT

-Avid qualified

expect to pay~1,500$ for the above config, when on sale

cheers,

BG

www.finale.tv <http://us-mg5.mail.yahoo.com/neo/www.finale.tv>

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From: Mark Santora <mrsantora@gmail.com <mailto:mrsantora@gmail.com> >
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 5:51 AM
Subject: [Avid-L2] Avid Laptop

Hey all.

I'm in the market for a new lappy and was wondering what people's
experiences were running MC on a PC laptop with an Intel Chip but AMD
Graphics inside. (_PLEASE_ no "get a mac" responses. It's not an
option) I know Nvidia is the requirement, but I also know people run
AMD. Frankly, I'd rather run Nvidia, but there seem to be more option
out there in my price range that use AMD for the graphics end of things.

The fact of the matter is that the system is not going to be used for
Avid very much if at all. It's primarily for a other work programs but
a back up in case I need it or have to edit away from my Workstation.

Thoughts?

Thanks
Mark

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