Saturday, August 24, 2013

[Avid-L2] Re: More folks are panning the 4K push

 

Mark,

Is a CD better technical quality than an LP? You better be ready because the audiophiles will have you for lunch now.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Mark Spano <cutandcover@...> wrote:
>
> My main argument is that anyone claiming HD is all you ever will need
> sounds like the folks who brought us the gramophone saying "sounds like
> he's in the room with us" or the guy who said "no one will ever need more
> than 640 KB of memory for a personal computer". History always proves
> people who say nay to the advancement of the quality of technology wrong,
> and often laughable. So that's why I'm laughing, both at the author of this
> ridiculous article (who just seems afraid to me more than anything) and
> some of the folks here who can't quite see the forest for the trees. Just
> because you can't find a reason for 4K / 8K / a billion, etc. doesn't mean
> people don't need it or couldn't use it, or can't tell the difference.
>
> Yes, I'll be the first to champion the quality of the composition over any
> feat of technical wizardry. Some of my favorite songs in the world still
> sound great even if I'm listening to super-limited, staticy FM radio. But
> give me the chance to get as close as possible to that master tape, and my
> enjoyment level goes up exponentially. Scoff at high fidelity sourcing and
> distribution all you want, I'll be one (of many I'd bet) deriving more and
> more from it every year I'm still alive. To me, the higher level of
> fidelity gives us the chance to preserve the maximum potential for the
> experience. If I can possibly enjoy something more, shouldn't I seek out
> that experience? So anything that gets me even an iota closer to the source
> is valuable to me. I know I am not alone in this pursuit, and while some
> see the ramping up of bigger and better tech as a ploy and a trick to sap
> customers out of their luxury dollar, I see it as a true benefit to the
> culture of life.
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 10:31 PM, owen <owen@...> wrote:
>
> > I think the new FCP X made for the macpro darth may boast about cutting in
> > 4K, and then we will
> > hear, oh, why aren't you cutting 4K?!
> >
> > Owen
> >
> >
> > On Aug 24, 2013, at 9:59 PM, T Hopkins <hoplist@...> wrote:
> >
> > > On Aug 24, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Dylan Reeve wrote:
> > >
> > > > There is virtually no way to even get 4K to the consumer... No sign of
> > 4K
> > > > broadcast on the horizon.
> > >
> > > This is most definitely not my reading of the tea leaves. 4K is not a
> > maybe, it's merely a when.
> > >
> > > I think you will see 4K monitors in Best Buy next year. 4K is here now
> > at the pro level. It's all over the shows. Monitors, players, distribution,
> > even projectors. The price is falling at an unprecedented pace. 70 inches
> > of 4K glory can be had right now for about $15k.
> > >
> > > As for getting 4K content to the consumer, that's also not major hurdle.
> > You are correct, it probably won't be broadcast any time soon, if ever. Do
> > you still watch broadcast? This is hardly a barrier. You could put 4k on a
> > Blu-ray if Sony decides to, but I hope they don't because I would dearly
> > love to see the nightmare that is Blu-ray go away.
> > >
> > > LIke I said, the players are already available and will be cheap soon.
> > Actually, this is the easiest part technically. 4K will initially go to the
> > consumer as files. Yup, they will be big files. They will come over
> > high-speed fiber and cable, on "thumb" drives and SD cards, and if we are
> > REALLY lucky, the optical successor to Blu-ray. DRM will be an issue, but
> > Hollywood will figure this out. Frankly, DRM is my biggest concern. It held
> > up HD for years.
> > >
> > > But 4k content? Come on, please. Where does Hollywood go next if not 4k?
> > Major films are already shot 4k. Theaters are rapidly converting to 4K,
> > driven in part by the fact that they know 4k is coming to the consumer.
> > Again, not a technical problem. The market will be created by the
> > electronics companies. Hollywood will be forced to oblige.
> > >
> > > And sports. What would people pay for 4k football do you think? I'm
> > thinking Superbowl 2015 maybe. World Cup 2018 definitely!
> > >
> > > And don't forget the other things you can do with 4K. The new MacPro has
> > 4k outputs. Did anyone catch that? As a matter of fact, it has dual 4k
> > outputs! Any forecasts for the future of Xbox and Playstation? Anyone want
> > to play Halo 5 in 4k on an 80 inch monitor? Yeah, me too.
> > >
> > > Will the consumer care? Of course they will. Why? Because they are
> > already buying 60-inch monitors, soon to be 70 and 80 inch. HD is great,
> > but it's still not perfect. We can see the seams. It can get better and the
> > consumer knows it. Sure they watch dreadful compression because it's
> > convenient, but they also buy Blu-ray at stupidly unreasonable prices. They
> > CAN see the difference.
> > >
> > > Will everyone have 4k by 2015? No. It will be too expensive for most.
> > Will 4k eventually replace HD? Certainly, and it will do so faster than HD
> > replaced SD. Much faster.
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > tod
> > >
> > >
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