Friday, July 26, 2013

Re: [Avid-L2] faster Go Pro injest

They are definitely doing something different with H.264 than your typical
DSLR (canon 5D, 7D, etc.), which work quite well with AMA. Probably a more
complex GOP structure. More CPU horsepower helps.

Premiere Pro and FCPX can deal with it quite well. Will test with MC 7 on
my home Avid, in the coming week...but I am not hopeful. I think
improvement will come when Avid introduces the new video engine in the next
major release.


On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:58 PM, Dom Q. Silverio <domqsilverio@gmail.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Many complex codecs that require Quicktime decoding ("sample provider")
> will always have terrible performance with AMA. It is utilizing the QT
> engine (32 bit, single threaded) for tasks normally reserved for MC.
> "Sample mapped" codecs (aka native Avid codecs) will perform better
> making playback, transcode, and simple edits viable.
>
> I have not tested large batch H.264 transcode with MC 7. Hopefully, it
> is better than 6.0/6.5.
>
>
> On 7/26/2013 11:29 PM, John Pale wrote:
> > Dom, you might want to go to the 6th floor of MPE and see how poorly
> GoPro
> > footage works with AMA. I'll be happy to show you.
> >
> > :)
> >
> > It's definitely not a normal type of H.264/mp4. The lag is usually so
> bad,
> > you won't even be able to make selects to transcode...if you can keep
> from
> > crashing.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Dom Q. Silverio <domqsilverio@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> **
>
> >>
> >>
> >> GoPro uses H.264 based encoding in a MP4 container.
> >>
> >> I think AMA was added around 5.0.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/26/2013 8:49 PM, Robert Lawson wrote:
> >>> AMA for AVCHD material, like GoPro footage, was introduced in Media
> >>> Composer 6.5, if I recall.
> >>>
> >>> Remember that you get Sorenson Squeeze bundled with Media Composer and
> >>> NewsCutter now, so you may be able to use that to process the clips, as
> >>> well.
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> Rob Lawson
> >>> System Administrator, ACSR ISIS, Windows & Interplay
> >>> CBS News
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Dom Q. Silverio <
> domqsilverio@gmail.com
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> **
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> GoPro are MP4/H.264 files. Quicktime can open it, thus Avid can AMA
> it.
> >>>> I just AMA'd 4096x2160 file from a GoPro Hero Black Edition in to MC
> >> 6.5.
> >>>> Check your entire file path and name. Also, make sure you don't have
> any
> >>>> 3rd party H.264 decoder (such as Perien) that can interfere with AMA.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 7/26/2013 6:58 PM, Benjamin Hershleder wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jul 26, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Lou Wirth wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Ive never been able to ama Go Pro. Not sure why.
> >>>>> Oh, Avid . . .
> >>>>> I bet you could make a lot of folks very happy
> >>>>> if you'd code an AMA plug-in for GoPro footage
> >>>>> (especially since Premiere eats it without a problem).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just sayin' . . . .
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> B
> >>>>> ----
> >>>>> Benjamin Hershleder
> >>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/avidmc-book
> >>>>> Site: http://ContactBen.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jul 26, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Benjamin Hershleder <
> Ben@ContactBen.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hmmm, won't AMA you say.
> >>>>>>> I thought the line from Avid was:
> >>>>>>> "if it'll play in your QT Player, then it will AMA."
> >>>>>>> So, what's the deal? Why can't MC AMA to MPEG4 clips?
> >>>>>>> Or does GoPro use some sort of propriety codec?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Curious . . .
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> B
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ----
> >>>>>>> Benjamin Hershleder
> >>>>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/avidmc-book
> >>>>>>> Site: http://ContactBen.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Lou Wirth wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Go Pro. Hate them! Long, big clips that won't AMA. Ties up system
> >>>> during import and in the end I use a few seconds of one or two clips
> at
> >>>> best. Is there a faster way to ingest? Even if that means converting
> in
> >>>> another software and then AMA. Anyone have a good system?
> >>>>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Lou
> >>>>>>>> Lou Wirth Productions
> >>>>>>>> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
> >>>>>>>> Corte Madera, CA 94925
> >>>>>>>> www.louwirth.com
> >>>>>>>> 415-924-9411p
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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