This IS the Avid L2: Re: [Avid-L2] faster Go Pro injest

Saturday, July 27, 2013

Re: [Avid-L2] faster Go Pro injest

Sounds to me like he has some secret info. I think he doth protest too much.

The problem with anticipation is it leads to so much disappointment.

Mike

On 28 Jul, 2013, at 8:45 AM, John Pale <pale.edit@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry..I don't have any special info...if I did, I would be under NDA.
>
> This was what I gleaned from the online Q&A Avid did when MC7 released at
> NAB. It may be as limited as what you stated, where "elements" would
> gradually be incorporated...but the impression I got that night was that
> there's a new video engine. ProTools is getting it first. MC in the next
> release, not MC7. But you may be right, and I may be misremembering the
> exact wording. The live blogging that night was coming fast and furious.
>
> Apologies if I gave the impression that I knew some secret inside info.
> Didn't mean to at all.
>
> On Saturday, July 27, 2013, blafarm wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>>> I think improvement will come when Avid introduces the new video engine
>> in the next major release.
>>
>> Interesting. If I am not mistaken, I belive you have mentioned this a
>> couple of times in the past weeks.
>>
>> At NAB, Avid was promoting the fact that components of the MC video engine
>> had finally been integrated into ProTools -- and that, going forward, we
>> could expect components of the ProTools audio engine to be incorporated
>> into MC.
>>
>> Maybe I was talking to the wrong people, but I did not hear anything about
>> a new MC video engine -- nor the release timing for such technology ("next
>> major release").
>>
>> Would you mind sharing your knowledge of this new video engine?
>>
>> And when you say "next major release" -- were you told this technology
>> would be incorporated into v.8?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
>> 'Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com');>, John Pale <pale.edit@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> They are definitely doing something different with H.264 than your
>> typical
>>> DSLR (canon 5D, 7D, etc.), which work quite well with AMA. Probably a
>> more
>>> complex GOP structure. More CPU horsepower helps.
>>>
>>> Premiere Pro and FCPX can deal with it quite well. Will test with MC 7 on
>>> my home Avid, in the coming week...but I am not hopeful. I think
>>> improvement will come when Avid introduces the new video engine in the
>> next
>>> major release.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:58 PM, Dom Q. Silverio <domqsilverio@
>> ...>wrote:
>>>
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Many complex codecs that require Quicktime decoding ("sample provider")
>>>> will always have terrible performance with AMA. It is utilizing the QT
>>>> engine (32 bit, single threaded) for tasks normally reserved for MC.
>>>> "Sample mapped" codecs (aka native Avid codecs) will perform better
>>>> making playback, transcode, and simple edits viable.
>>>>
>>>> I have not tested large batch H.264 transcode with MC 7. Hopefully, it
>>>> is better than 6.0/6.5.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/26/2013 11:29 PM, John Pale wrote:
>>>>> Dom, you might want to go to the 6th floor of MPE and see how poorly
>>>> GoPro
>>>>> footage works with AMA. I'll be happy to show you.
>>>>>
>>>>> :)
>>>>>
>>>>> It's definitely not a normal type of H.264/mp4. The lag is usually so
>>>> bad,
>>>>> you won't even be able to make selects to transcode...if you can keep
>>>> from
>>>>> crashing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Dom Q. Silverio <domqsilverio@...
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> **
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GoPro uses H.264 based encoding in a MP4 container.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think AMA was added around 5.0.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/26/2013 8:49 PM, Robert Lawson wrote:
>>>>>>> AMA for AVCHD material, like GoPro footage, was introduced in Media
>>>>>>> Composer 6.5, if I recall.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Remember that you get Sorenson Squeeze bundled with Media Composer
>> and
>>>>>>> NewsCutter now, so you may be able to use that to process the
>> clips, as
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> Rob Lawson
>>>>>>> System Administrator, ACSR ISIS, Windows & Interplay
>>>>>>> CBS News
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Dom Q. Silverio <
>>>> domqsilverio@...
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> GoPro are MP4/H.264 files. Quicktime can open it, thus Avid can
>> AMA
>>>> it.
>>>>>>>> I just AMA'd 4096x2160 file from a GoPro Hero Black Edition in to
>> MC
>>>>>> 6.5.
>>>>>>>> Check your entire file path and name. Also, make sure you don't
>> have
>>>> any
>>>>>>>> 3rd party H.264 decoder (such as Perien) that can interfere with
>> AMA.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7/26/2013 6:58 PM, Benjamin Hershleder wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Lou Wirth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ive never been able to ama Go Pro. Not sure why.
>>>>>>>>> Oh, Avid . . .
>>>>>>>>> I bet you could make a lot of folks very happy
>>>>>>>>> if you'd code an AMA plug-in for GoPro footage
>>>>>>>>> (especially since Premiere eats it without a problem).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just sayin' . . . .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> B
>>>>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>>>> Benjamin Hershleder
>>>>>>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/avidmc-book
>>>>>>>>> Site: http://ContactBen.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Benjamin Hershleder <
>>>> Ben@...>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm, won't AMA you say.
>>>>>>>>>>> I thought the line from Avid was:
>>>>>>>>>>> "if it'll play in your QT Player, then it will AMA."
>>>>>>>>>>> So, what's the deal? Why can't MC AMA to MPEG4 clips?
>>>>>>>>>>> Or does GoPro use some sort of propriety codec?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Curious . . .
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> B
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>>>>>> Benjamin Hershleder
>>>>>>>>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/avidmc-book
>>>>>>>>>>> Site: http://ContactBen.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Lou Wirth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Go Pro. Hate them! Long, big clips that won't AMA. Ties up
>> system
>>>>>>>> during import and in the end I use a few seconds of one or two
>> clips
>>>> at
>>>>>>>> best. Is there a faster way to ingest? Even if that means
>> converting
>>>> in
>>>>>>>> another software and then AMA. Anyone have a good system?
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lou
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lou Wirth Productions
>>>>>>>>>>>> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
>>>>>>>>>>>> Corte Madera, CA 94925
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.louwirth.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-924-9411p
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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