This IS the Avid L2: [Avid-L2] Re: Stuff I wish they'd fix

Thursday, July 25, 2013

[Avid-L2] Re: Stuff I wish they'd fix

Over here, 4 scopes in the telecine bay was fairly common. When I set up the first Symphony bay in LA, and everyone thereafter, I put in two scopes.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Mikeparsons.tv" <mikeparsons.tv@...> wrote:
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> Yes ideally I'd like to be able to have more customization but at the price it's what it is.
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> I think the analogy of house building is a poor one, the expanded vector and vector was rare even in a telecine suite you'd generally have one vectorscope and press a button as and when required. In fact thinking back I can't remember having a room with more than 3 scopes. Except when we got lighting scopes but really who graded looking at bowtie displays?
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> On 25 Jul, 2013, at 12:00 PM, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
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> > I begged Grant about 5 or 6 years ago at NAB to give me a cheap scope. He said he believed that too but his marketing guys poo pooed it. So eventually he gave us the a cheap scope. This year I asked him to give us the customization I need. I don't need ot see audio and picture on a scope when I CC. I do need to see a vector, expanded vector, parade and luminance. That is how i like to work.
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> > In the old days you talk about, a decent daVinci room had 4 Tektronix 601s usually two on top of two just to get the same layout. Now we can do it one rasterizer, but not with Ultrascope which either gives us just 2 displays, or 6 that don't match what we need.
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> > Can you color correct with an Ultrascope? Yes. But you can also build a house with a cheap saw, hammer and screwdriver. Will it be as fast, pleasant and efficient as doing it with quality tools? no!
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> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Mikeparsons.tv" <mikeparsons.tv@> wrote:
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> > > I love all this scope snobbery :)
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> > > We lived our whole lives with a 5 inch CRT waveform and vector and if we were very lucky a parade display.
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> > > Now for 600 bucks we can have all that and histogram, audio and error checking with gamut indications.
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> > > What customizable options do people want? It's been a long time since I had any need to look at line 21 or zoom in to time in a vtr. Hell barely anyone I knows has an spg anymore.
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> > > I know very high end facilities with scannity and baselight grading by ultrascope, they are more than accurate enough for daily use.
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> > > As a disclaimer to the guy who dissed them while admitting he is paid to push other manufacturers I have vfx supervised a feature for bmds now closed facility house and worked with Grant and Peter in 1991-2 but no one pays me to say nice things about anyone's scopes. I just like the ultrascope as a good enough solution that delivers a lot of value.
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> > > I like the brash boldness of the display I like the error logging, I wish they added a clock to the top right so I had a time indication in the same place and I wish I could throw my company logo on rather than theirs... Hmmm ResEdit? I might look at that! But seriously its not an omni tech or a too range engineering textrivix scope but neither were ev, hamlet, etc etc and I've had to use those many times over the years.
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> > > It's a sad indicator of where our industry is going that we are having a conversation about the advantages of adding technical monitoring. I've never built a suite without scopes and I won't be starting any time soon.
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> > > On 25 Jul, 2013, at 1:36 AM, "Bart" <bart@> wrote:
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> > > > Did anyone checked out Scopebox from http://www.divergentmedia.com/scopebox
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> > > > I find it pretty useful with plenty of options to get your own layout and setup, a big advantage over Ultrascopes.
> > > > With a cheap BM capture card, this software allows you to monitor any incoming signal or videofile. I use it in our Davinci resolve set and it is sold for under $100.
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> > > > > Is Ultrascope good enough to asist CC in Avid?
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