This IS the Avid L2: [Avid-L2] Re: faster Go Pro injest

Saturday, July 27, 2013

[Avid-L2] Re: faster Go Pro injest

> Apologies if I gave the impression that I knew some secret inside info.

No problem.
I just thought that maybe I missed something.
It wouldn't be the first time!
Cheers

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, John Pale <pale.edit@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry..I don't have any special info...if I did, I would be under NDA.
>
> This was what I gleaned from the online Q&A Avid did when MC7 released at
> NAB. It may be as limited as what you stated, where "elements" would
> gradually be incorporated...but the impression I got that night was that
> there's a new video engine. ProTools is getting it first. MC in the next
> release, not MC7. But you may be right, and I may be misremembering the
> exact wording. The live blogging that night was coming fast and furious.
>
> Apologies if I gave the impression that I knew some secret inside info.
> Didn't mean to at all.
>
> On Saturday, July 27, 2013, blafarm wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > > I think improvement will come when Avid introduces the new video engine
> > in the next major release.
> >
> > Interesting. If I am not mistaken, I belive you have mentioned this a
> > couple of times in the past weeks.
> >
> > At NAB, Avid was promoting the fact that components of the MC video engine
> > had finally been integrated into ProTools -- and that, going forward, we
> > could expect components of the ProTools audio engine to be incorporated
> > into MC.
> >
> > Maybe I was talking to the wrong people, but I did not hear anything about
> > a new MC video engine -- nor the release timing for such technology ("next
> > major release").
> >
> > Would you mind sharing your knowledge of this new video engine?
> >
> > And when you say "next major release" -- were you told this technology
> > would be incorporated into v.8?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> > 'Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com');>, John Pale <pale.edit@> wrote:
> > >
> > > They are definitely doing something different with H.264 than your
> > typical
> > > DSLR (canon 5D, 7D, etc.), which work quite well with AMA. Probably a
> > more
> > > complex GOP structure. More CPU horsepower helps.
> > >
> > > Premiere Pro and FCPX can deal with it quite well. Will test with MC 7 on
> > > my home Avid, in the coming week...but I am not hopeful. I think
> > > improvement will come when Avid introduces the new video engine in the
> > next
> > > major release.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:58 PM, Dom Q. Silverio <domqsilverio@
> > ...>wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Many complex codecs that require Quicktime decoding ("sample provider")
> > > > will always have terrible performance with AMA. It is utilizing the QT
> > > > engine (32 bit, single threaded) for tasks normally reserved for MC.
> > > > "Sample mapped" codecs (aka native Avid codecs) will perform better
> > > > making playback, transcode, and simple edits viable.
> > > >
> > > > I have not tested large batch H.264 transcode with MC 7. Hopefully, it
> > > > is better than 6.0/6.5.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 7/26/2013 11:29 PM, John Pale wrote:
> > > > > Dom, you might want to go to the 6th floor of MPE and see how poorly
> > > > GoPro
> > > > > footage works with AMA. I'll be happy to show you.
> > > > >
> > > > > :)
> > > > >
> > > > > It's definitely not a normal type of H.264/mp4. The lag is usually so
> > > > bad,
> > > > > you won't even be able to make selects to transcode...if you can keep
> > > > from
> > > > > crashing.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Dom Q. Silverio <domqsilverio@
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> **
> > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> GoPro uses H.264 based encoding in a MP4 container.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I think AMA was added around 5.0.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 7/26/2013 8:49 PM, Robert Lawson wrote:
> > > > >>> AMA for AVCHD material, like GoPro footage, was introduced in Media
> > > > >>> Composer 6.5, if I recall.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Remember that you get Sorenson Squeeze bundled with Media Composer
> > and
> > > > >>> NewsCutter now, so you may be able to use that to process the
> > clips, as
> > > > >>> well.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> ---
> > > > >>> Rob Lawson
> > > > >>> System Administrator, ACSR ISIS, Windows & Interplay
> > > > >>> CBS News
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Dom Q. Silverio <
> > > > domqsilverio@
> > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> **
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> GoPro are MP4/H.264 files. Quicktime can open it, thus Avid can
> > AMA
> > > > it.
> > > > >>>> I just AMA'd 4096x2160 file from a GoPro Hero Black Edition in to
> > MC
> > > > >> 6.5.
> > > > >>>> Check your entire file path and name. Also, make sure you don't
> > have
> > > > any
> > > > >>>> 3rd party H.264 decoder (such as Perien) that can interfere with
> > AMA.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On 7/26/2013 6:58 PM, Benjamin Hershleder wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> On Jul 26, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Lou Wirth wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Ive never been able to ama Go Pro. Not sure why.
> > > > >>>>> Oh, Avid . . .
> > > > >>>>> I bet you could make a lot of folks very happy
> > > > >>>>> if you'd code an AMA plug-in for GoPro footage
> > > > >>>>> (especially since Premiere eats it without a problem).
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Just sayin' . . . .
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> B
> > > > >>>>> ----
> > > > >>>>> Benjamin Hershleder
> > > > >>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/avidmc-book
> > > > >>>>> Site: http://ContactBen.com
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> On Jul 26, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Benjamin Hershleder <
> > > > Ben@>
> > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>> Hmmm, won't AMA you say.
> > > > >>>>>>> I thought the line from Avid was:
> > > > >>>>>>> "if it'll play in your QT Player, then it will AMA."
> > > > >>>>>>> So, what's the deal? Why can't MC AMA to MPEG4 clips?
> > > > >>>>>>> Or does GoPro use some sort of propriety codec?
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Curious . . .
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> B
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> ----
> > > > >>>>>>> Benjamin Hershleder
> > > > >>>>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/avidmc-book
> > > > >>>>>>> Site: http://ContactBen.com
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Lou Wirth wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Go Pro. Hate them! Long, big clips that won't AMA. Ties up
> > system
> > > > >>>> during import and in the end I use a few seconds of one or two
> > clips
> > > > at
> > > > >>>> best. Is there a faster way to ingest? Even if that means
> > converting
> > > > in
> > > > >>>> another software and then AMA. Anyone have a good system?
> > > > >>>>>>>> thanks
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Lou
> > > > >>>>>>>> Lou Wirth Productions
> > > > >>>>>>>> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
> > > > >>>>>>>> Corte Madera, CA 94925
> > > > >>>>>>>> www.louwirth.com
> > > > >>>>>>>> 415-924-9411p
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