This IS the Avid L2: [Avid-L2] Re: faster Go Pro injest

Saturday, July 27, 2013

[Avid-L2] Re: faster Go Pro injest

> I think improvement will come when Avid introduces the new video engine in the next major release.

Interesting. If I am not mistaken, I belive you have mentioned this a couple of times in the past weeks.

At NAB, Avid was promoting the fact that components of the MC video engine had finally been integrated into ProTools -- and that, going forward, we could expect components of the ProTools audio engine to be incorporated into MC.

Maybe I was talking to the wrong people, but I did not hear anything about a new MC video engine -- nor the release timing for such technology ("next major release").

Would you mind sharing your knowledge of this new video engine?

And when you say "next major release" -- were you told this technology would be incorporated into v.8?

Thanks in advance.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, John Pale <pale.edit@...> wrote:
>
> They are definitely doing something different with H.264 than your typical
> DSLR (canon 5D, 7D, etc.), which work quite well with AMA. Probably a more
> complex GOP structure. More CPU horsepower helps.
>
> Premiere Pro and FCPX can deal with it quite well. Will test with MC 7 on
> my home Avid, in the coming week...but I am not hopeful. I think
> improvement will come when Avid introduces the new video engine in the next
> major release.
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:58 PM, Dom Q. Silverio <domqsilverio@...>wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Many complex codecs that require Quicktime decoding ("sample provider")
> > will always have terrible performance with AMA. It is utilizing the QT
> > engine (32 bit, single threaded) for tasks normally reserved for MC.
> > "Sample mapped" codecs (aka native Avid codecs) will perform better
> > making playback, transcode, and simple edits viable.
> >
> > I have not tested large batch H.264 transcode with MC 7. Hopefully, it
> > is better than 6.0/6.5.
> >
> >
> > On 7/26/2013 11:29 PM, John Pale wrote:
> > > Dom, you might want to go to the 6th floor of MPE and see how poorly
> > GoPro
> > > footage works with AMA. I'll be happy to show you.
> > >
> > > :)
> > >
> > > It's definitely not a normal type of H.264/mp4. The lag is usually so
> > bad,
> > > you won't even be able to make selects to transcode...if you can keep
> > from
> > > crashing.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Dom Q. Silverio <domqsilverio@...
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> **
> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> GoPro uses H.264 based encoding in a MP4 container.
> > >>
> > >> I think AMA was added around 5.0.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 7/26/2013 8:49 PM, Robert Lawson wrote:
> > >>> AMA for AVCHD material, like GoPro footage, was introduced in Media
> > >>> Composer 6.5, if I recall.
> > >>>
> > >>> Remember that you get Sorenson Squeeze bundled with Media Composer and
> > >>> NewsCutter now, so you may be able to use that to process the clips, as
> > >>> well.
> > >>>
> > >>> ---
> > >>> Rob Lawson
> > >>> System Administrator, ACSR ISIS, Windows & Interplay
> > >>> CBS News
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Dom Q. Silverio <
> > domqsilverio@...
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> **
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> GoPro are MP4/H.264 files. Quicktime can open it, thus Avid can AMA
> > it.
> > >>>> I just AMA'd 4096x2160 file from a GoPro Hero Black Edition in to MC
> > >> 6.5.
> > >>>> Check your entire file path and name. Also, make sure you don't have
> > any
> > >>>> 3rd party H.264 decoder (such as Perien) that can interfere with AMA.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 7/26/2013 6:58 PM, Benjamin Hershleder wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Jul 26, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Lou Wirth wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Ive never been able to ama Go Pro. Not sure why.
> > >>>>> Oh, Avid . . .
> > >>>>> I bet you could make a lot of folks very happy
> > >>>>> if you'd code an AMA plug-in for GoPro footage
> > >>>>> (especially since Premiere eats it without a problem).
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Just sayin' . . . .
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> B
> > >>>>> ----
> > >>>>> Benjamin Hershleder
> > >>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/avidmc-book
> > >>>>> Site: http://ContactBen.com
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Jul 26, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Benjamin Hershleder <
> > Ben@...>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Hmmm, won't AMA you say.
> > >>>>>>> I thought the line from Avid was:
> > >>>>>>> "if it'll play in your QT Player, then it will AMA."
> > >>>>>>> So, what's the deal? Why can't MC AMA to MPEG4 clips?
> > >>>>>>> Or does GoPro use some sort of propriety codec?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Curious . . .
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> B
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> ----
> > >>>>>>> Benjamin Hershleder
> > >>>>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/avidmc-book
> > >>>>>>> Site: http://ContactBen.com
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Lou Wirth wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Go Pro. Hate them! Long, big clips that won't AMA. Ties up system
> > >>>> during import and in the end I use a few seconds of one or two clips
> > at
> > >>>> best. Is there a faster way to ingest? Even if that means converting
> > in
> > >>>> another software and then AMA. Anyone have a good system?
> > >>>>>>>> thanks
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Lou
> > >>>>>>>> Lou Wirth Productions
> > >>>>>>>> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
> > >>>>>>>> Corte Madera, CA 94925
> > >>>>>>>> www.louwirth.com
> > >>>>>>>> 415-924-9411p
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