This IS the Avid L2: [Avid-L2] Re: MC7 looks great!

Wednesday, May 15, 2013

[Avid-L2] Re: MC7 looks great!

In LA GVG, CMX and Sony all had more market share than ACE.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, mike parsons <mikeparsons.tv@...> wrote:
>
> Absolutely the ACE challenged the CMX... Ampex sales guru Keith Pierce
> OWNED asia, I doubt anyone anywhere ever sold as many edit suites as Keith,
> virtually every analogue edit suite from Hong Kong to Kuala Lumpur was an
> Ampex turnkey installation, with VPR3s and 6s, Ace 200, Century 310, ADO,
> Ampex caption cameras, Scribe (ok thats Chyron) and even Ava 3s! Heck we
> even had Ampex Picturemaker 3d systems (badge engineered Cubicomps) so well
> respected was Keith and Ampex. If it had an Ampex badge in Asia people
> would buy it. They even sold some Alex capgens but that was much later.
>
> The only CMX I ever saw in Asia was mine at APV. Almost every suite was a
> clone with Ampex style cabinets and desks, same 19" 3 x monochrome preview
> monitors and those horrible Barco CVS monitors that you had to run at 200%
> contrast to look good which made the power supplies blow up with monotonous
> regularity.
>
> The only thing that stopped the Ampex march was the Quantel Harry. Once we
> started down the Harry/D1 path Ampex was done.
>
> In the UK the big challenge to CMX was the Sony 5000 then more so the 9000.
> This was primarily fuelled by Sony packaging BVH2000s and an edit
> controller for the same price as 3 x 1" decks.
>
> But in truth CMX's downfall was due mostly to them being too reliable. Once
> you bought one you didn't ever need to buy another. Its the Avid 7.1
> syndrome. Sell a ton on launch then once everyone who wants one has one you
> struggle for new sales for quite a while.
>
> As for the ACE feature set, TBC remote years before remotes became common,
> ILC triggers to the switcher and timeline control of ADO, best tagging of
> any system and best of all for me as an effects guy, being able to just
> keep adding transitions and effects in a single event with full store and
> recall. I loved the ACE for commercials but preferred the CMX for shows and
> long form. But regardless I will always be at heart a CMX editor... and I
> still got an Omni in my spare bedroom...
>
> best regards
>
> Mike
>
>
> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 9:00 AM, johnrobmoore <bigfish@...> wrote:
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> > **
> >
> >
> > Do you really think Ace challanged CMX for real? I remember Varitel Video
> > setup an Ace edit system they got 2nd hand which came with some VPR-3s. It
> > wasn't long before they replaced it with an ISC controller. I know it had
> > some great interaction with ADOs and Ampex switchers but never caught on in
> > LA in the places I worked.
> >
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Mikeparsons.tv" <mikeparsons.tv@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Sadly Marianna as a long time flame and avid editor I have always wanted
> > to love ds. That smoke 2013 is now selling itself as being what ds had a
> > decade and more ago is very sad.
> > >
> > > I now have equal hopes for where avid fusion link is going but having
> > find several features now in nuke I wish it wasnt fusion but to be fair
> > nuke is playing catchup on gpu acceleration
> > >
> > > Long story short 30 years into my online career it's as exciting as when
> > the ace was challenging cmx. Damn I love my job.
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > On 15 May, 2013, at 8:24 PM, "mariannamontague" <marianna_montague@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I know its actually NOT funny but Mike and TQJ - your responses made
> > me belt out a laugh.
> > > >
> > > > Ken - did you get your contract squared away and your MC activated?
> > > > :)
> > > > M and M
> > > >
> > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Tony Quinsee-Jover <tony@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I get the feeling they're ripping up the street to build a freeway
> > > > > through it...
> > > > >
> > > > > On 14/05/2013 17:15, Mikeparsons.tv wrote:
> > > > > > It's a cul-de-sac :(
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 14 May, 2013, at 10:50 PM, "ksirul" <kenavid2@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Thanks Marianna. For the most part, I'll stick to DS anyway
> > (would love to know the roadmap for that!) for the most part!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> KEN
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "mariannamontague"
> > <marianna_montague@> wrote:
> > > > > >>> Its on the roadmap - planning to be included at some point. They
> > cant and wont go into deets on when that is.... that process hasnt changed.
> > I'll make sure I send your email over....
> > > > > >>> Marianna
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "ksirul" <kenavid2@> wrote:
> > > > > >>>> I'm glad it's coming, HOWEVER....to hear that it's coming "post
> > MC7 release" means what exactly? MC 12? Of course it's post MC7. Because it
> > is currently not in MC7. The answer is actually no. When Symphony v1 came
> > out, I could have said that 4K editing would be available "post Symphony
> > 1"! Linked hi res stills should have all options with the regular DVE!
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "blafarm" <blafarm@> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>> Thanks for that Marianna,
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Did they comment on whether or not rotation of high resolution
> > stills would be an option?
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Thanks.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "mariannamontague"
> > <marianna_montague@> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>> Yes...
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Sorry for the delay, I just got final word today that this
> > will be added functionality post Media Composer 7 release.
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Marianna
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "ksirul" <kenavid2@> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>> Any word about this?
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "mariannamontague"
> > <marianna_montague@> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Let me check on this.....
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Stand by
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Marianna
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "blafarm" <blafarm@> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> I asked this question at NAB and did not get a definitive
> > answer.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> One thing that was said to me is that rotation would not
> > be available.
> > > > > >>
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