Europe seemed much more partial to the Sony editors than in LA. On the Olympics the British editors always wanted to be on the Sony editors but I was happy with my ISP-100 etc.... New York always seemed to have more Sony editors than did LA but CMX was the defacto standard until all the code birdies left the nest and went out on their own. IIRC the egonomic keyboard and voice activated editor were the beginning of the end for CMX. That R&D never paid off. After all who wants another voice in the edit room.
I do remember Sony pushing hard to throw in their edit controllers and offering a deal on the playback machines but even with that I never saw them take off in LA at the production companies and facilities I frequented.
--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, mike parsons <mikeparsons.tv@...> wrote:
>
> Absolutely the ACE challenged the CMX... Ampex sales guru Keith Pierce
> OWNED asia, I doubt anyone anywhere ever sold as many edit suites as Keith,
> virtually every analogue edit suite from Hong Kong to Kuala Lumpur was an
> Ampex turnkey installation, with VPR3s and 6s, Ace 200, Century 310, ADO,
> Ampex caption cameras, Scribe (ok thats Chyron) and even Ava 3s! Heck we
> even had Ampex Picturemaker 3d systems (badge engineered Cubicomps) so well
> respected was Keith and Ampex. If it had an Ampex badge in Asia people
> would buy it. They even sold some Alex capgens but that was much later.
>
> The only CMX I ever saw in Asia was mine at APV. Almost every suite was a
> clone with Ampex style cabinets and desks, same 19" 3 x monochrome preview
> monitors and those horrible Barco CVS monitors that you had to run at 200%
> contrast to look good which made the power supplies blow up with monotonous
> regularity.
>
> The only thing that stopped the Ampex march was the Quantel Harry. Once we
> started down the Harry/D1 path Ampex was done.
>
> In the UK the big challenge to CMX was the Sony 5000 then more so the 9000.
> This was primarily fuelled by Sony packaging BVH2000s and an edit
> controller for the same price as 3 x 1" decks.
>
> But in truth CMX's downfall was due mostly to them being too reliable. Once
> you bought one you didn't ever need to buy another. Its the Avid 7.1
> syndrome. Sell a ton on launch then once everyone who wants one has one you
> struggle for new sales for quite a while.
>
> As for the ACE feature set, TBC remote years before remotes became common,
> ILC triggers to the switcher and timeline control of ADO, best tagging of
> any system and best of all for me as an effects guy, being able to just
> keep adding transitions and effects in a single event with full store and
> recall. I loved the ACE for commercials but preferred the CMX for shows and
> long form. But regardless I will always be at heart a CMX editor... and I
> still got an Omni in my spare bedroom...
>
> best regards
>
> Mike
>
>
> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 9:00 AM, johnrobmoore <bigfish@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Do you really think Ace challanged CMX for real? I remember Varitel Video
> > setup an Ace edit system they got 2nd hand which came with some VPR-3s. It
> > wasn't long before they replaced it with an ISC controller. I know it had
> > some great interaction with ADOs and Ampex switchers but never caught on in
> > LA in the places I worked.
> >
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Mikeparsons.tv" <mikeparsons.tv@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Sadly Marianna as a long time flame and avid editor I have always wanted
> > to love ds. That smoke 2013 is now selling itself as being what ds had a
> > decade and more ago is very sad.
> > >
> > > I now have equal hopes for where avid fusion link is going but having
> > find several features now in nuke I wish it wasnt fusion but to be fair
> > nuke is playing catchup on gpu acceleration
> > >
> > > Long story short 30 years into my online career it's as exciting as when
> > the ace was challenging cmx. Damn I love my job.
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > On 15 May, 2013, at 8:24 PM, "mariannamontague" <marianna_montague@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I know its actually NOT funny but Mike and TQJ - your responses made
> > me belt out a laugh.
> > > >
> > > > Ken - did you get your contract squared away and your MC activated?
> > > > :)
> > > > M and M
> > > >
> > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Tony Quinsee-Jover <tony@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I get the feeling they're ripping up the street to build a freeway
> > > > > through it...
> > > > >
> > > > > On 14/05/2013 17:15, Mikeparsons.tv wrote:
> > > > > > It's a cul-de-sac :(
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 14 May, 2013, at 10:50 PM, "ksirul" <kenavid2@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Thanks Marianna. For the most part, I'll stick to DS anyway
> > (would love to know the roadmap for that!) for the most part!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> KEN
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "mariannamontague"
> > <marianna_montague@> wrote:
> > > > > >>> Its on the roadmap - planning to be included at some point. They
> > cant and wont go into deets on when that is.... that process hasnt changed.
> > I'll make sure I send your email over....
> > > > > >>> Marianna
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "ksirul" <kenavid2@> wrote:
> > > > > >>>> I'm glad it's coming, HOWEVER....to hear that it's coming "post
> > MC7 release" means what exactly? MC 12? Of course it's post MC7. Because it
> > is currently not in MC7. The answer is actually no. When Symphony v1 came
> > out, I could have said that 4K editing would be available "post Symphony
> > 1"! Linked hi res stills should have all options with the regular DVE!
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "blafarm" <blafarm@> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>> Thanks for that Marianna,
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Did they comment on whether or not rotation of high resolution
> > stills would be an option?
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Thanks.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "mariannamontague"
> > <marianna_montague@> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>> Yes...
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Sorry for the delay, I just got final word today that this
> > will be added functionality post Media Composer 7 release.
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Marianna
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "ksirul" <kenavid2@> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>> Any word about this?
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "mariannamontague"
> > <marianna_montague@> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Let me check on this.....
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Stand by
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Marianna
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "blafarm" <blafarm@> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> I asked this question at NAB and did not get a definitive
> > answer.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> One thing that was said to me is that rotation would not
> > be available.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
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