This IS the Avid L2: [Avid-L2] Re: .MTS require Clipwrap to get into Avid SNDX 6.5.2?

Monday, April 22, 2013

[Avid-L2] Re: .MTS require Clipwrap to get into Avid SNDX 6.5.2?

Clip wrap already existed at the production company but that's a good alternative.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Mark Spano <cutandcover@...> wrote:
>
> Beach ball on clip says something to me about corrupt media perhaps, or the
> link isn't working correctly. Either way, you probably have to go a
> different route. For me, if all else fails with AVCHD linking, I go then to
> FCP and Log and Transfer. Easier (and cheaper) than ClipWrap.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:38 AM, johnrobmoore <bigfish@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Well I seem to have the latest XF 64 bit version after going to the link
> > on the avid ama page. I even tried downloading the Canon XF utility but it
> > seems to only want to read off Camera cards and their virtual media volumes
> > don't seem to let me browse to these files and load in clips from a folder.
> > Judging by the options of NTSC, Pal and 24 I don't know what the utility is
> > designed for unless they are miss using those terms and by NTSC they mean
> > anything even HD that runs at 29.97/59.94. I don't see a way to load in a
> > clip so I'm hanging my head in ama shame and using clip wrap, plus my shoes
> > and sock are soggy to boot. l-(
> >
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Also for what it's worth I notice that all the clips that are on the A
> > Cam Card 1 which is giving me trouble start with 00:00:00:00 time code
> > while the B Cam Card 1 that worked has what looks to be TOD code that is
> > ascending with each clip. The clips start at 00000 and go to 00090. Well I
> > must say with all this flood of information I've been multitasking in
> > failure mode. While testing earlier I managed to flood my house when the
> > toilet clogged. Had to pause and squeegee, mop and towel the two rooms with
> > of course hard wood floors. Can't wait to see how warped things become in
> > the morning but I guess they can't get more warped than my ama linking. And
> > to top things off this is of course a low budget show. Oh if only I was
> > billing hourly. ;-)
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well for some reason I can now see the Card1 folder in OS 10.8.3.
> > Perhaps this is because I removed the "/" characters before and I hadn't
> > gone back to 10.8.3 to try again until now. I can populate the bin and see
> > the clips and they appear to be H.264 29.97 interlace according to the
> > video column but when I load a clip into the source window I see a frame,
> > probably first frame, and then I get the beach ball of bite me John your
> > not going to get this to work. Or at least that's how I interpret this. I
> > have tried this on both 10.6.8 and 10.8.3 and each time I load a clip I get
> > the beach ball after a second and Avid hangs. The B camera card 1 folder
> > worked fine but now the A camera card 1 folder is doing this. They are two
> > different cameras but the folder structures are similar although I see more
> > things in the sub folder of the A camera. I even tried removing the stuff
> > that differs from the B camera and it still ama linked to volume but I
> > still get the beach ball when loading into the source monitor. I also get
> > the beach ball if I just link to ama volume and go straight to transcode.
> > In the console I see the link to ama volume was successful using the mts
> > avid ama plug in so no forseen error there just an issue once I load a clip
> > into the source monitor or try to transcode. If I unlink a clip I can load
> > it into the source monitor as media offline with no beach ball but that
> > really doesn't help get it done. I do know I can use clip wrap and create
> > .mov's but I was hoping to be more elegant. What are the likely cameras
> > that "DCIM", "MISC" and "Private". Sounds like a cannon 5D or would this be
> > the new 300 models. I'm pretty sure I installed all those ama plug ins.
> > Besides if I didn't have the right one it wouldn't link to ama volume or
> > would it?
> > > >
> > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Mark Spano <cutandcover@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > John,
> > > > >
> > > > > Try this:
> > > > >
> > > > > In Finder, right-click the AVCHD volume and Show Package Contents
> > > > > Navigate to the folder you were previously able to AMA link
> > > > > Go up one level so you can see this folder as an item in the Finder
> > window
> > > > > Go back to MC
> > > > > Link to AMA Volume
> > > > > Drag the folder from the Finder window into the Link to dialog box
> > > > > It should navigate the Link to dialog to the folder you want and let
> > you
> > > > > link.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm pretty sure this is what I've done and it's worked.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 11:54 PM, johnrobmoore <bigfish@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > **
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well I removed all the "/"'s and changed the date 11/4/12 to
> > 110412 and I
> > > > > > was able to link to ama volume when I booted back on OS 10.6.8. I
> > then
> > > > > > restarted saving this ama bin and went back to 10.8.3 OS. The ama
> > bin
> > > > > > created with 10.6.8 still worked in 10.8.3 and I'm using it to
> > transcode
> > > > > > directly without need clip wrap to make .mov's. I tried to create
> > a new bin
> > > > > > using link to ama volume but once again when I right clicked on
> > the avchd
> > > > > > icon it only showed "quick look" with no option to show package
> > contents.
> > > > > > On 10.6.8 I only had to highlight the "card1" folder and the ama
> > volume
> > > > > > mount worked perfectly showing me a bin of H.264 clips which I am
> > now
> > > > > > transcoding to DNX 220. The avid transcode seems to be moving much
> > faster
> > > > > > than the clip wrap to .mov process did, although I'm not being
> > scientific
> > > > > > about it the clip wrapping the 91 clips to .mov's took approx 1.5
> > hours and
> > > > > > only 12 ish minutes in the transcoding is on clip 34 of 90. That's
> > huge
> > > > > > given I would have to take the .mov's and then import them or link
> > ama and
> > > > > > transcode them to DNX 220 which would easily be another hour plus
> > to do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Out of curiousity if I use Clip Wrap and take the .mts and convert
> > to an
> > > > > > Avid DNX 220 .mov could I just link to those .mov's via ama and
> > consolidate
> > > > > > as opposed to transcoding? Given the .mov's are already in the DNX
> > 220
> > > > > > wouldn't a consolidate just rewrap in a more robust .mxf file that
> > Avid can
> > > > > > handle like regular Avid media. I know with XDCam and other native
> > codecs
> > > > > > you can just consolidate to avid media and get full advantage of
> > avid's
> > > > > > media handling strength without having to transcode but in the
> > case of a
> > > > > > DNX 220 QT .mov would the consolidate do the same thing and would
> > it be
> > > > > > better than transcoding the media that is already DNX 220?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is really seeming like these avchd files will not volume or
> > file link
> > > > > > ama even if I right click. Has anybody got that to work in 10.8.3
> > or
> > > > > > 10.8.2? I tried the recipe I already posted from avid but I can't
> > get it to
> > > > > > show contents packing from within the avid program only on the
> > finder
> > > > > > level.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Dom Q. Silverio" <domqsilverio@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As far as I remember "/" is considered an illegal character for
> > AMA.
> > > > > > Remove
> > > > > > > and test.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dom Q. Silverio
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 7:07 PM, John Moore <bigfish@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I found this thread about getting .mts files into media
> > composer:
> > > > > > > > http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/Avid-L2/message/106582
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have these ama plugins and I've gone back to my OS10.6.8
> > startup
> > > > > > drive
> > > > > > > > because of the change in how the avcHD card folder is seen by
> > the OS.:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > AMA PLUG-IN NAME COMPANY NAME VERSION
> > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > AVCHD MTS MSP Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.2
> > > > > > > > MSP_MXF Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.8
> > > > > > > > MSP_SonyXDCAMEXMP4_64bit Sony Corporation 1.5007
> > > > > > > > AVCHD MVP Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.2
> > > > > > > > MVP_CanonXF64 CANON INC. 2.0
> > > > > > > > MVP_MSP_ARRI_MXF © 2011-2012 Hamburg Pro M
> > > > > > > > AS-02 Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.1
> > > > > > > > IkegamiGFCam Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 3.6
> > > > > > > > PanasonicP2 MVP_MSP Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 2.6
> > > > > > > > QuickTime Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.2
> > > > > > > > RED R3D Plug-In (R3DSDK v4.3) Avid Technology, Inc. 1.8
> > > > > > > > MVP_MSP_SonyF65Raw_64bit Sony Corporation 1.0
> > > > > > > > MVP_MSP_SonySRDeck_64bit Sony Corporation 2.1006
> > > > > > > > MVP_SonyXDCAMEX_64bit Sony Corporation 1.5007
> > > > > > > > SonyXDCAM_64bit Sony Corporation 2.1005
> > > > > > > > I see the MTS MSP plug in installed should that not allow
> > amaing to the
> > > > > > > > infor off a drive?
> > > > > > > > The folder structure is "Day_7 11/4/12" "Cam_B" "Card_1" then
> > 3 folders
> > > > > > > > "DCIM", "MISC" and "PRIVATE". Inside "Private" is "AVCHD"
> > folder and
> > > > > > > > inside that is "AVCHDTN" and BDMV. Inside "BDMV" is "CLIPINF",
> > > > > > > > "index.bdm", "MOVIEOBJ.BDM" "PLAYLIST" and "STREAM". Inside
> > "STREAM"
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > the .MTS clips labeled 00000.MTS to 00090.MTS These .MTS clips
> > can be
> > > > > > > > accessed by clip wrap to converto to DNX 220 .movs which work
> > in Avid.
> > > > > > If
> > > > > > > > I read the thread I posted above it sounds like I should be
> > able to ama
> > > > > > > > link to volume but so far no luck. Could the "/" characters in
> > the
> > > > > > date be
> > > > > > > > a problem or are there more than one style of .mts? Also what
> > gives
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > the way the folder is presented in OS 10.8.3 suddenly the
> > Private
> > > > > > folder
> > > > > > > > appears as an avchd icon. I played a little with showing
> > package
> > > > > > content
> > > > > > > > and I also renamed one for a test the Private AVCHD icon and
> > it seemed
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > appear like a folder like it does in OS 10.6.8. I'm trying to
> > avoid
> > > > > > clip
> > > > > > > > wrap and learn
> > > > > > > > more about what's going on. The production company is under the
> > > > > > > > impression that clipwrap is the only way to get these files
> > into Avid
> > > > > > but I
> > > > > > > > would the the MTS ama plugin would work. I'd appreciate
> > anybodies
> > > > > > > > experience here.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > John Moore
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Barking Trout Productions
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Studio City, CA
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > bigfish@
> > > > > >
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