Saturday, September 22, 2012

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Double System sound

 

Jeez, i cannot imagine why NOT to import sound.
And i'm truely amazed people recommend PluralEyes when there is common
timecode!

personally i'm not a big fan of Pluraleyes. Great under lab conditions, but
in (my) real life, it's dog slow and makes a lot of mistakes.
(or fails alltogether)

So, my way of dealing with a mess of non-common TC (after kicking the
client...)
Even if there isn't a lock, there is always free run TC, or even file
creation time / date.

Autosequence sound and video based on that, put them into one timeline,
shift the entire audio shebang to match one clip and the rest will match as
well.
(not exactly, but you're very close.)

Faster than Pluraleyes, not a lot of room for error.

Bouke

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----- Original Message -----
From: "ksirul" <kenavid2@glueedit.com>
To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 11:01 PM
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Double System sound

Thanks. I imported the audio files and not AMA.

KEN

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Job ter Burg (L2B)" <Job_L2@...> wrote:
>
> Ken,
>
> Not sure if you're doing that or not, but make sure you don't use AMA for
> bringing in the sound files. Traditional import takes TC and other
> metadata from the BWAV's BEXT chunk, but if you AMA BWAV files, you are
> relying on whatever timecode QuickTime player decides to supply you with.
> And we all know what a great piece of software QuickTime is. Or, to
> paraphrase Terry, friends don't let friends rely on QuickTime for
> anything.
>
> J
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 21, 2012, at 22:08, "ksirul" <kenavid2@...> wrote:
>
> > Just checked. TC matches both cam and audio and there is in fact ref
> > audio on F3 footage. Thanks
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Jim Feeley <jfeeley@> wrote:
> >>
> >> How did they send TC to the F3? In my experience, the F3's clock isn't
> >> so stable. I'll assume the source TC from audio is stable. If they
> >> stuck a lockit or similar tc generator on the camera and left it there,
> >> then you're probably in good shape. If they just jammed directly to the
> >> camera in the morning and then after lunch, then camera TC might wander
> >> a bit after a while. If they were relying on the F3's clock, you may
> >> need to do some visual syncing with later takes. Or not...kind of a
> >> crap shoot, ime.
> >>
> >> Good luck,
> >>
> >> Jim Feeley
> >> jfeeley@
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 21, 2012, at 11:48 AM, ksirul wrote:
> >>
> >>> No audio on F3. I'm hoping TC matches!
> >>>
> >>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Breuer" <tonybreuer@> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hopefully the cameraman left the camera mic on. I recently had a
> >>>> whole scene in a movie to cut where the cameraman didn't record any
> >>>> audio on the F3. His response was, "Why should I. The sound guy
> >>>> recorded it. Use Plural Eyes".
> >>>>
> >>>> Now as editors we are expected to be able to read lips.
> >>>>
> >>>> Tony
> >>>>
> >>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "ksirul" <kenavid2@> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hmm, these are both good ideas, especially since I can download a 30
> >>>>> day trial of Plural Eyes and be done with it. Any benefit over one
> >>>>> or the other?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> KEN
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Marcus <gen@> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Group clips by time code.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Marcus
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: ksirul
> >>>>>> Sent: 21/09/2012 19:02
> >>>>>> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> >>>>>> Subject: [Avid-L2] Double System sound
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have not needed to do this before but here we go. I got some F3
> >>>>>> interviews with sound recorded on an external sound device. I
> >>>>>> planned on AMAing the footage into MC6.0.1 for editing. What is the
> >>>>>> best way to marry the sound and pix? I believe it has matching time
> >>>>>> code. I may also need to be able to link back to the original F3
> >>>>>> material. What can I do? Metafuze? Something else?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> KEN
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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