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--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Shirley Gutierrez <guanacaa@...> wrote:
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> I happen to love Avid's basic editorial model, and it works quite well for me in many situations. I just don't think they're being competitive in today's market, and I'd like them to be competitive since I want them to stick around.
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> Shirley
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Dodson <davidadodson@...>
> To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Sep 8, 2012 6:09 pm
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: MC 6.5
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>
> Well, I don't know, I'm sure I'm being naive here, but we're talking about a
> piece of software around which many of us make our very livelihoods. If Avid
> software is so far and away not a value for the money that Avid is asking, then
> I'm sure all the people who are upset about their pricing plans will have no
> problem switching to the NLE that IS an appropriate value for the money AND will
> support their professional livelihoods.
>
> As for me, I think it's really kind of a steal. Honestly, I have no emotional
> investment in Avid. I'll happily cut on whatever tool best does the job. But for
> the kind of work I do, there is no better tool than Avid, and I'm happy to pay a
> premium price if it helps Avid improve quality and stick around longer. I mean,
> really. People in other professions often spend a whole helluva lot more on
> their kits. Our software investments are a lot smaller than some others.
>
> DD
>
>
> On Sep 8, 2012, at 6:00 PM, Mike Chapman wrote:
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> > Oh, please. Poor Avid! Let's all pledge to spend nearly twice the academic
> price of Media Composer per year to keep QA engineers in India employed.
> >
> > Gotta go cut a piece on FCP X, so y'all excuse me.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I would hardly call $495 twice a year gouging. I'm not sure how you folks
> think Avid is supposed to run a company, employ engineers, support personnel,
> quality control, etc. if they don't charge for the product.
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Shirley Gutierrez <guanacaa@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I concur, Roger. Avid is living up to its old, bad reputation for gouging,
> and I still think they need to think more about being competitive than they are.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Shirley
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Roger <rogershuff@>
> > > > To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Sat, Sep 8, 2012 10:52 am
> > > > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] MC 6.5
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > All sounds good and genuinely useful but my point remains - I wish Avid
> would
> > > > recognise the loyalty of those users who had paid out for v6 recently.
> Some kind
> > > > of deal like the free upgrade for those purchase since August. If it was
> $199
> > > > for v6 owners until September 30th then reverted to the posted prices -
> that
> > > > kind of thing would sugar the pill and bring in some revenue and cut down
> on the
> > > > many moans on this list.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8 Sep 2012, at 18:43, electropura212 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Daniel Frome posted this on the Cow...anyone else using it care to
> comment?
> > > > > You would think Avid would be shouting about some of the under the hood
> > > > > stuff...
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is a shortlist of the main additions/changes:
> > > > >
> > > > > New codecs:
> > > > > 1) DNx80 and DNx100 for DSLR or other 4:2:0 sources or whatever you want
> > > > >
> > > > > 2) jpeg2000 (aka j2k): 10bit 4:2:2 visually lossless at any broadcast
> > > > > resolution. 30-50Mbits for SD. 90-150Mbits for HD. This is a favourite
> > > > > codec for me: since very often 1080p/23.98 material hovers around the
> > > > > 100Mbits data rate and it is better than ProResHQ in terms of quality
> > > > > (which is twice the bitrate).
> > > > >
> > > > > Under the hood improvement:
> > > > > - way faster AMA-->transcode processes. Transcoding will now often
> smother
> > > > > your CPU usage, especially if using the new J2K codec -- flatlines even
> 12
> > > > > core workstations - and transcodes multitudes faster than real-time (on
> > > > > multicore systems). In general, a quad core i7 will still see slightly
> > > > > faster transcodes into DnxHD than j2k, where as 8 and 12 core machines
> will
> > > > > see dramatic speed increases in favour of j2k.
> > > > >
> > > > > - improved quicktime h264 cpu/speed: H264 exporting now uses 4 to 5
> cores
> > > > > on average - often finishes 1080p/23.98 renders at about 80% of
> real-time
> > > > > (single pass, quality-based exports). Also far less crashes when
> exporting
> > > > > long sequences.
> > > > >
> > > > > - improved performance with most 3rd party video IO devices, especially
> > > > > blackmagic devices.
> > > > > overall much snappier response on the timeline, more similar to v5.5
> > > > > snappiness (there is 1 known bug with 'fast scrub' that is being
> addressed
> > > > > in a 6.5.1 patch, but it is not major).
> > > > >
> > > > > UI/Workflow additions:
> > > > > - Avid can now "search and find" batches of AMA clips and automatically
> > > > > relink them, similar to how FCP does this.
> > > > > - You can now select multiple non-adjacent clips and move them around as
> a
> > > > > unit, without needing to select the filler between them.
> > > > >
> > > > > - The Relink window now offers more options for relinking to files of
> > > > > different of metadata.
> > > > > - You can now turn off automatic AMA volume mounting (but still have AMA
> > > > > enabled).
> > > > > - You can still use classic XDCAM and P2 import functions while AMA is
> on.
> > > > > - full Redcolor 3 and Redgamma 3 support
> > > > >
> > > > > On Saturday, September 8, 2012, Benjamin Hershleder wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > **
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have to agree with Roger on this one.
> > > > > > To borrow a word being used a lot right now in the US due to the
> > > > > > campaigning,
> > > > > > there's something to be said for "optics."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > B
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > On Sep 8, 2012, at 1:15 AM, Roger wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fair point but once again Avid are penalising those who have bought
> > > > > > previous upgrades. $499 from v6 but only an extra $100 ($599) from
> earlier
> > > > > > versions. How about $249 from v6 and $599 from earlier versions? That
> might
> > > > > > repay all of us who have been effectively beta-testing
> (gamma-testing?) 6.0
> > > > > > and feeding back bug reports to Avid.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 7 Sep 2012, at 17:42, Terence Curren wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Well, based on the past few years I would say we are going to see
> two
> > > > > > updates per year. You don't have to buy every one. If the new features
> > > > > > aren't worth the upgrade price to you, then skip it. Bug fixes get
> applied
> > > > > > to the previous version also.
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> > > > > > > With best wishes,
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