Saturday, September 8, 2012

[Avid-L2] Re: MC 6.5

 

Oh, please. Poor Avid! Let's all pledge to spend nearly twice the academic price of Media Composer per year to keep QA engineers in India employed.

Gotta go cut a piece on FCP X, so y'all excuse me.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
>
> I would hardly call $495 twice a year gouging. I'm not sure how you folks think Avid is supposed to run a company, employ engineers, support personnel, quality control, etc. if they don't charge for the product.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Shirley Gutierrez <guanacaa@> wrote:
> >
> > I concur, Roger. Avid is living up to its old, bad reputation for gouging, and I still think they need to think more about being competitive than they are.
> >
> >
> > Shirley
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger <rogershuff@>
> > To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sat, Sep 8, 2012 10:52 am
> > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] MC 6.5
> >
> >
> > All sounds good and genuinely useful but my point remains - I wish Avid would
> > recognise the loyalty of those users who had paid out for v6 recently. Some kind
> > of deal like the free upgrade for those purchase since August. If it was $199
> > for v6 owners until September 30th then reverted to the posted prices - that
> > kind of thing would sugar the pill and bring in some revenue and cut down on the
> > many moans on this list.
> >
> >
> > On 8 Sep 2012, at 18:43, electropura212 wrote:
> >
> > > Daniel Frome posted this on the Cow...anyone else using it care to comment?
> > > You would think Avid would be shouting about some of the under the hood
> > > stuff...
> > >
> > > Here is a shortlist of the main additions/changes:
> > >
> > > New codecs:
> > > 1) DNx80 and DNx100 for DSLR or other 4:2:0 sources or whatever you want
> > >
> > > 2) jpeg2000 (aka j2k): 10bit 4:2:2 visually lossless at any broadcast
> > > resolution. 30-50Mbits for SD. 90-150Mbits for HD. This is a favourite
> > > codec for me: since very often 1080p/23.98 material hovers around the
> > > 100Mbits data rate and it is better than ProResHQ in terms of quality
> > > (which is twice the bitrate).
> > >
> > > Under the hood improvement:
> > > - way faster AMA-->transcode processes. Transcoding will now often smother
> > > your CPU usage, especially if using the new J2K codec -- flatlines even 12
> > > core workstations - and transcodes multitudes faster than real-time (on
> > > multicore systems). In general, a quad core i7 will still see slightly
> > > faster transcodes into DnxHD than j2k, where as 8 and 12 core machines will
> > > see dramatic speed increases in favour of j2k.
> > >
> > > - improved quicktime h264 cpu/speed: H264 exporting now uses 4 to 5 cores
> > > on average - often finishes 1080p/23.98 renders at about 80% of real-time
> > > (single pass, quality-based exports). Also far less crashes when exporting
> > > long sequences.
> > >
> > > - improved performance with most 3rd party video IO devices, especially
> > > blackmagic devices.
> > > overall much snappier response on the timeline, more similar to v5.5
> > > snappiness (there is 1 known bug with 'fast scrub' that is being addressed
> > > in a 6.5.1 patch, but it is not major).
> > >
> > > UI/Workflow additions:
> > > - Avid can now "search and find" batches of AMA clips and automatically
> > > relink them, similar to how FCP does this.
> > > - You can now select multiple non-adjacent clips and move them around as a
> > > unit, without needing to select the filler between them.
> > >
> > > - The Relink window now offers more options for relinking to files of
> > > different of metadata.
> > > - You can now turn off automatic AMA volume mounting (but still have AMA
> > > enabled).
> > > - You can still use classic XDCAM and P2 import functions while AMA is on.
> > > - full Redcolor 3 and Redgamma 3 support
> > >
> > > On Saturday, September 8, 2012, Benjamin Hershleder wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have to agree with Roger on this one.
> > > > To borrow a word being used a lot right now in the US due to the
> > > > campaigning,
> > > > there's something to be said for "optics."
> > > >
> > > > B
> > > >
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> > > > On Sep 8, 2012, at 1:15 AM, Roger wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Fair point but once again Avid are penalising those who have bought
> > > > previous upgrades. $499 from v6 but only an extra $100 ($599) from earlier
> > > > versions. How about $249 from v6 and $599 from earlier versions? That might
> > > > repay all of us who have been effectively beta-testing (gamma-testing?) 6.0
> > > > and feeding back bug reports to Avid.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7 Sep 2012, at 17:42, Terence Curren wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Well, based on the past few years I would say we are going to see two
> > > > updates per year. You don't have to buy every one. If the new features
> > > > aren't worth the upgrade price to you, then skip it. Bug fixes get applied
> > > > to the previous version also.
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