So far I have not found a field order parameter to change.
--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Roger <rogershuff@...> wrote:
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> Having looked at this I think you can only set it to P or I but not upper or lower within interlaced - is that correct? The 'Shift fields' filter in FCP7 is useful for this.
>
> On 16 Aug 2012, at 14:38, Mark Spano wrote:
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> > MC gets field motion wrong ALMOST ALL THE TIME when linking via AMA.
> > Actually, I've only seen it right with DNxHD quicktimes and XDCAM/P2. I
> > always have to go in to Field Motion and change every single clip from
> > Unknown to Interlaced/Progressive depending on source. Come to think of it,
> > this error of guessing is true of almost every application out there. FCP,
> > Compressor, AfterEffects, everything. Always check your field order.
> >
> > Now the fact that when you change it to Interlaced, it plays out of order -
> > I'd be inclined to think something else weird is happening. Was there HD
> > source material in your original edit? Doing a QT ref without doing a
> > mixdown first might have issues that way. I'd try the mixdown -> QT Ref ->
> > Save as self-contained method and see if you still get out of order fields.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Job ter Burg (L2B) <Job_L2@...>wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm suspecting the 1:1x part. IIRC, there were always some issues with
> >> that.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>
> >> On Aug 16, 2012, at 4:57, John Moore <bigfish@...> wrote:
> >>
> >>> QT Ref to Self Contained Movie with QT Pro Field Motion/Order Issue with
> >> ama?
> >>>
> >>> MacPro OS 10.6.8 SNDX 5.5.3 1:1 SD mxf project 30I
> >>>
> >>> So now that I have ama with 5.5.3 for QT .movs I figured I'd run the
> >> file I make back through Avid to my error logging scope. I export a QT ref
> >> to maintain 4 tracks of audio and then use QT Pro to make a self contained
> >> .mov. The resulting movie says Formant AVid 1:1x, 720x486 and plays fine in
> >> QT Pro. I ama link to the file and it seems to play with field order
> >> reversed. The field motion says unknown and the video format says Ai
> >> :xTime. Huh? I change the field motion to interlace and still field order
> >> seems reversed. If I change to progressive it plays correctly. The original
> >> is interlaced with 2:3 pulldown on most of the source. I can go field by
> >> field and everything is fine when field motion is set to progressive but if
> >> I switch to interlace or 2:3 film I can see the field order issues as a jog
> >> field by field. SD masterial in my NTSC world is always even lower field
> >> first. What is happening in the food chain here that makes
> >>> interlace field motion show inverted field order.
> >>>
> >>> Now for the error log which is why I did this in the first place. The
> >> sequence has the safe color limit effect with RGB limited to 16-235 and 422
> >> box checked. I can play the original sequence out to my scope and it won't
> >> trigger any errors with the scope set to Tek defaults and 0% area in the
> >> tolerance settings for the alarms. This is running through the external
> >> legalizer which is so so but seems to do the job when combined with the
> >> safe color limit effect. If I bypass the legalizer I get some occasional
> >> errors RGB gamut wise. Now with the ama clip back in avid I get identical
> >> errors playing back the exported clip. The errors are even frame accurate
> >> to playing the original sequence both start and stop of the errors. I know
> >> that's the way it should be but it's nice to see it working symmetrically.
> >> So I guess just like I error log my final tapes with a 1% area tolerance I
> >> have to apply the same to the QT files. If the safe color limiter
> >>> was more effective perhaps no errors would get out. It's funny that I
> >> need both the safe color limit on the sequence and my external ensemble
> >> legalizer to get no errors. If I just use the ensemble I will get errors
> >> which is why I use both. Also the fact that it is the file I'm told not the
> >> digibeta master that is used for air. The tape is just a backup. Oh well
> >> why does avid interpret the QT ama wrong when I set it too interlace.
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Thursday, August 16, 2012
[Avid-L2] Re: QT Ref to Self Contained Movie with QT Pro Field Motion/Order Issue with ama?
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