Sunday, June 24, 2012

[Avid-L2] Re: Lion install

 

Okay I'm buying Lion 10.7.4 cause that's all that's there. I carbon copy cloned my MBP startup drive twice and I booted to the second CCC to order Lion. I'm now downloading it which will take 3 to 4 hours according to the progress bar in the purchases. I already downloaded the disc maker program thingy listed in this thread. Obviously I don't want to stay up till 4AM tonight so when the download is complete will there be a prompt before the Lion installer starts running? My understanding is the Lion installer erases the downloaded install disk after completing the install. So I want to interrupt the install before it begins so I can run the disk maker so I don't have to take 4 hours to download this every time I want to install Lion.

I know this Apps store is just the way it is now but I can't help thinking this really is a somewhat unprofessional approach to distribution of software. I know Apple is built for consumers not video professionals etc.... but to make an operating system virtually unavailable in the typical merchandising chain we are use to seems selfish just for the sake of additional profit. I haven't looked but could I go to Fry's or Melrose Mac and pick up a copy of Lion? From what I've read it is only available through the apps store. I guess there is a way to get it on a usb stick but I haven't explored that. To play devils advocate what if I'm trying to run Symphony 6 on a mac SNDX and I have a session booked Monday and I find out on Sunday the client has used Moving Pictures, which I now know only works on Lion. It's Sunday and I have to wait 4 hours to download the new OS to be able to accommodate the clients needs. I realize V 6 is technically Lion only but I've been working okay on 10.6.8 because I still needed Rosetta to get to my unity through the legacy connection manager. I know doo doo happens but it seems like there are some serious bottlenecks being introduced just to increase Apple's profits even more.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, RT <huipro@...> wrote:
>
> I found nothing but Apple update and combo update links. It's not the
> full OS installer.
>
> Full installers for Lion now go through the App store and are just the
> one realease Apple wants you to have (for your iPad). Downloads only,
> unless you order a stick, or so I have heard.
>
> So if anyone knows how to get an officlal 10.7.3 release, please post.
>
> Yes - 10.7.4 is giving me grief.
>
> RT
>
>
> johnrobmoore wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I guess the issue is there seems no way to get the os 10.7 to then
> > upgrade. The only thing I see in the apps store page is for 10.7.4. I
> > did find the upgrade page to 10.7.3 from the links posted just now but
> > if I can only download 10.7.4 that seems like a moot point.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Tony Capelli <tcapelli@> wrote:
> > >
> > > John it's available from Apple. I downloaded it last week. Just
> > search OS 10.7.3 download. That was what I searched and got it. Also
> > Marianna posted a link to it too over in the Avid forums a bit ago.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jun 23, 2012, at 8:52 PM, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > So my google attempts seem to be lacking here. Is it really true
> > there is no way to get an earlier version of lion? In my case 10.7.3
> > or earlier so I can at least attempt to follow the current Avid
> > qualified OS. In the past there were ways to get legacy Quicktime
> > versions and I assume OS's. I've googled legacy and 10.7.3 but so far
> > no luck. This seems like a much bigger pain than it should be.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > RT <huipro@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On the subject - 10.7.4 is the flavor of the day at Apple store
> > now.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there any way to get 10.7.3 downloaded? I have a couple
> > Symphonies
> > > > > to build.
> > > > >
> > > > > RT
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > RT wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I concur w/ DD. You need SL in order to "officially" purchase
> > Lion at
> > > > > > the App store.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To make that easier, Apple sent me a FREE SL installer disk
> > recently, in
> > > > > > the hopes that I'll use it to log on and purchase Lion.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Real nice of them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RT
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dennis Degan wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I previously wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You can do this IF you have Snow Leopard installed. The 10.7
> > > > > > > installer requires SL for the Lion upgrade to run.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Jun 13, 2012, at 7:16 PM, Job ter Burg (L2B) wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No, it does not require Snow Leopard per se. The point of the
> > > > > > > clean install is that you don't build on the previous OS.
> > > > > > > > There's a trick that lets you create a bootable Lion
> > install DVD.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > http://macs.about.com/od/macoperatingsystems/qt/Create-A-Bootable-Copy-Of-Os-X-Lion.htm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I say:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Oh, yeah. I forgot about that bootable DVD. I even have one. ;)
> > > > > > > However, if you try to run the Lion installer APPLICATION, Snow
> > > > > > > Leopard is required. You could still be doing a clean
> > install; it's
> > > > > > > just that the Lion installer application looks for SL before
> > it will
> > > > > > > run:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > <http://macs.about.com/od/macoperatingsystems/qt/Mac-Os-X-Lion-Preview-Mac-Os-X-Lion-Minimum-Requirements.htm
> >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Near the bottom of the page:
> > > > > > > "Because the Lion OS can only be purchased from the Mac App
> > Store,
> > > > > > > you'll need to have Snow Leopard running on your Mac. Snow
> > Leopard is
> > > > > > > the minimum requirement for running the Mac App Store
> > application. If
> > > > > > > you haven't upgraded to Snow Leopard, you should do so now,
> > while the
> > > > > > > product is still readily available."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dennis Degan, Video Editor-Consultant-Knowledge Bank
> > > > > > > NBC Today Show, New York
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