Perhaps there's a bit of fan boy Apple cultishness associated with FCP user forums. I'm not really sure. But along with Mike, I'm grateful that whenever I can have a civilized discussion about our tools. They are, after all, just tools, which makes them a means to an end, not the end itself.
Best,
Shirley
-----Original Message-----
From: Dylan Reeve <dylan@dylan.wibble.net>
To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, May 6, 2012 8:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: The civility of the AlvidL (Was: Effect ordering question)
I used to think that about the FCP discussion places too, but then I
discovered RedUser and all else faded away... :)
Dylan Reeve
http://dylanreeve.com/
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Michael Towe <L2mail@m2digitalpost.com>wrote:
> **
>
>
> Okay I just have to say this…
>
> One of the first things I noticed when I switched over to FCP a few years
> back was the difference in tone between the AvidL and numerous FCP lists
> and forums. I have been a member of the AvidL (although lately mostly a
> lurker) since the mid to late 90's. When I switched to FCP a few years ago
> I looked for resource on the interwebs for FCP and was a bit shocked by the
> tone of the posters. If anything negative was mentioned about FCP there
> seemed to always be a certain level of flaming in those places towards
> anyone who would have to audacity to mention FCP in a negative light. On
> the contrary I just posted something negative about Avid and it sparked an
> informative and CIVIL conversation wherein I learned a few things. Good on
> ya AvidL, for being professionals and having a wonderful and informative
> conversation on the subject at hand.
>
> I have truly missed all of you!
>
> Mike
> M2 Digital Post Inc.
> San Diego, Ca.
>
> On May 5, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Shirley Gutierrez wrote:
>
> > I myself still find Avid effect deficient in many areas, and in fact, in
> some respects they've gone backwards. I haven't checked out rolling titles
> recently, so correct me if I'm now wrong, but I remember having, and then
> losing, the ability to do real time rolls, and also the ability to soft
> crop them. It would be nice if that came back.
> >
> > Shirley
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tony Quinsee-Jover <tony@hdheaven.co.uk>
> > To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Fri, May 4, 2012 11:59 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Effect ordering question
> >
> > Well, you could look at the DS model, however we've already heard this
> week that
> > it's beyond 99% of users needs and you can do 'everything you need to'
> on
> > Symphony.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > Sent by magic over t'interweb
> >
> > On 5 May 2012, at 06:31, Shirley Gutierrez <guanacaa@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Mike,
> > >
> > >
> > > How would you want it updated in this instance? I've had the same
> problem with
> > things key type effects instructions being applied to lower layers, but
> in
> > general, Avid seems to do a better job of giving me nesting (i.e.
> restricting)
> > options when it comes to this stuff than does FCP. Can you give us an
> idea of
> > how this could work better for you? Forward thinking design ideas are
> always
> > welcome!
> > >
> > >
> > > Shirley
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Michael Towe <L2mail@m2digitalpost.com>
> > > To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Fri, May 4, 2012 9:04 pm
> > > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Effect ordering question
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Terry! That worked. So it looks like the effect ordering, and
> how it
> > > effects lower layers, is still as it always was. Wish Avid would have
> updated
> > > that. Things like this, or not being able to apply say an animatte,
> and then a
> >
> > > resize to move the whole enchilada (and not take the background with
> it) just
> > > need to be updated. However for just straight cutting I see Avid is
> just a
> > fast
> > > as it's always been. It feels like old time to be back in the
> interface, and
> > in
> > > a good way.
> > >
> > > Thans again,
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > M2 Digital Post Inc.
> > > San Diego, CA.
> > >
> > >
> > > On May 4, 2012, at 8:40 PM, Terence Curren wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Step inside the spectra matte and apply the color correction to the
> actual
> > > shot you are keying. Hopefully it doesn't mess up your key. (One of
> the things
> > I
> > > miss about Ultimatte was the ability to color correct after the matte)
> > >>
> > >> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Michael Towe <L2mail@...> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hey L'ers,
> > >>>
> > >>> Back in the Avid seat again as I am adding Avid back into the shop
> and I
> > > have an effects ordering question. Back in the Meredian/Adrinaline
> days I
> > never
> > > found a way round this but thought maybe something might have changed
> while I
> > > was away. Basically I want to apply and effect and only have it effect
> the
> > layer
> > > it is on, not the layers below. Here's an example�
> > >>>
> > >>> I have a background on V1 and a green screen shot on V2. I am using
> Spectra
> > > Matte to key it out (Boy did I ever miss Spectra Matte) But now that I
> have
> > the
> > > key pulled I want to add a color correction to the keyed shot on V2.
> When I do
> >
> > > the the correction applies through the stack to V1 as well. Is there
> any way
> > to
> > > isolate that correction to just V2 and not have it pass to the
> background on
> > V1?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks in advance,
> > >>>
> > >>> Mike
> > >>>
> > >>> M2 Digital Post Inc.
> > >>> San Diego, CA.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
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