Sunday, April 8, 2012

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Sorenson 6 TimeCode Filter what is source timecode?

 

Ok, i've done it...
You can now export / transcode from QTchange, so the BITC will be burned in.
Of course this takes time, much more than just the adding of the text track,
but hey, you've asked for it :-)
Get the latest version here:

http://www.videotoolshed.com/product/42/qtchange

and now i'm going to enjoy of what remains of my day off...

Bouke

VideoToolShed
van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
6512 AS NIJMEGEN
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+31 24 3553311
www.videotoolshed.com
For large files:
http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172

----- Original Message -----
From: "namyrb" <namyrb@gmail.com>
To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Sorenson 6 TimeCode Filter what is source
timecode?

> I'm actually curious about this as well. Having to export anything from
> Avid w/ TC burn-in takes up too much time. We have the option of using
> Squeeze, but It always starts at 01;00;00;00 and at the very beginning of
> the export. This doesn't really help when you've got a slate on every
> single export you do. Is there any way of making this work for us in
> Squeeze? We don't really have much of at this point in the production.
>
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:14 AM, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Not sure why it sometimes works and why not. This is a QT thing...
>> (like Motion clips are just text with a .mov extension...)
>> So, just try and see what works for you!
>>
>>
>> Bouke
>>
>> VideoToolShed
>> van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
>> 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
>> The Netherlands
>> +31 24 3553311
>> www.videotoolshed.com
>> For large files:
>> http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@pacbell.net>
>> To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 10:02 AM
>> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Sorenson 6 TimeCode Filter what is source
>> timecode?
>>
>> What if after making the Avid QT ref and then adding the TC burn in to
>> that
>> will another 3rd party app like say Toast see the burn in if the modified
>> reference movie is brought in to burn a DVD? Can you explain why when I
>> ama
>> link to the modified reference movie I see the burn in on the clip? Is
>> this
>> an indication that an ama link to a QT movie still goes through QT and
>> the
>> burn in gets inserted in that path?
>>
>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "bouke" <bouke@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > John,
>> > QTchange inserts a TEXT track. This means that it is indeed almost
>> > instantly, as it requires no render at all, and can be removed.
>> > Downside is, not all players display it. QTplayer does.
>> > However, it can be rendered into the video on a transcode, but that
>> means,
>> > well, a render....
>> > (Not sure what is faster, using QTchange and then make a BITC copy, or
>> do
>> > it
>> > in the first place in Avid...)
>> >
>> > Bouke
>> >
>> > VideoToolShed
>> > van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
>> > 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
>> > The Netherlands
>> > +31 24 3553311
>> > www.videotoolshed.com
>> > For large files:
>> > http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...>
>> > To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 7:54 AM
>> > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Sorenson 6 TimeCode Filter what is source
>> timecode?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm running firefox with ATT ISP. I don't know if that even qualifies
>> > as
>> > an
>> > email client. I have been experimenting with QT Change I it does modify
>> > the
>> > QT file to display a time code burn in almost instantaneously. I'm not
>> > sure
>> > how this time code burn in exists as far as the video essence of the
>> .mov.
>> > I tried to ama link to the QT change burn in modified file and on V6 MC
>> at
>> > first I didn't see it. But a second attempt exporting a QT ref of the
>> > entire show, 1/2 hour, without the Avid time code effect seems to be
>> > working. I opened the QT ref file on my laptop and used QT Change with
>> > 60,60,60 for the hPos, vPos, Font size and once done I could see the
>> > time
>> > code burn in on QT 7 and QT 10. I then ama'd to this file and in avid
>> > it
>> > does show the burn in. Don't know why I didn't see it on my first
>> > attempt.
>> > Perhaps our Mr. VideoToolShed can shed some light on what is really
>> > happening and if the time code burn in is a QT player function that is
>> > an
>> > overlay within QT player. The ama link suggests that the Time code
>> > window
>> > is actually burned into the video and not in an overlay state. But I
>> > don't
>> > really know the details of this but it does seem to be a viable
>> > approach
>> > in
>> > the future. Mr. Bouke can you explain a bit of how this works. I must
>> > say
>> > it seems totally awesome for this.
>> >
>> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Job ter Burg (L2B)" <Job_L2@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > John,
>> > >
>> > > The TC effect in Sorensen does indeed not look at the source file's
>> > > TC,
>> > > but rather generates a new one. Not very useful.
>> > >
>> > > On a sidenote, would it be possible for you to change the text wrap
>> > > settings on your email client?
>> > > I find it very hard to read your postings when the text lines
>> > > auto-fill
>> > > the entire width of the text window.
>> > >
>> > > Job.
>> > >
>> > > On 5 apr. 2012, at 06:05, John Moore wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I'm trying to save time exporting a QT ref from an Avid sequence
>> > > > but
>> > > > they want a time code burn in which forces a render of the TC. In
>> > > > trying to get around this I was trying to use Sorenson 6 to burn in
>> > > > the
>> > > > time code from a reference movie out of avid. QT 7 sees the
>> > > > sequence
>> > > > time code correctly. In Sorenson 6 there is a time code filter and
>> > > > I
>> > > > checked source time code and positioned upper left. I did a test
>> > > > render
>> > > > to QT choosing Avid DNX codec to create in essence a same as source
>> QT
>> > > > that will later be used by Toast to make a Video TS file to be
>> > > > uploaded.
>> > > > Regardless of it's eventual use the time code window starts a
>> > > > 0:00:00:00
>> > > > not the actual sequence drop frame time code. What does Sorenson 6
>> > > > mean
>> > > > by source time code if it's not coming from the QT's time code
>> > > > channel?
>> > > > There is also the option on new time code but I see no way to set
>> > > > the
>> > > > time code start value to match my sequence time code. I'm not much
>> of
>> > > > a
>> > > > Sorenson user other than some
>> > > > simple presets. Am I just not understanding what Sorenson's
>> > > > timecode
>> > > > filter is and what can be done with it. I tried the inboard help
>> > > > but
>> > > > only got a 6 page document that wasn't too detailed. Can Sorenson 6
>> > > > take my QT ref file with timecode from avid sequence and burn that
>> > > > time
>> > > > code into the video of an Avid DNX export?
>> > > >
>> > > > John Moore
>> > > >
>> > > > Barking Trout Productions
>> > > >
>> > > > Studio City, CA
>> > > >
>> > > > bigfish@
>> > > >
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