Tuesday, March 20, 2012

Re: [Avid-L2] (SEMI) OT: transcription software redux

 

If all you want to do is "find" based on audio, then get a PhraseFind license for Avid. It's well worth the cash if you do this kind of editing a lot. Also, the problems inherent with transcription are basically non-existent with PhraseFind.

The main problem with speech to text is CONTEXT. Computers don't understand context that we humans use to help us understand so many words. PhraseFind doesn't NEED context because you are giving it the word you are looking for instead of the software trying to find a solitary sound and matching it to some gigantic dictionary. The accuracy on PhraseFind is very good.

PhraseFind automatically scans and analyzes your audio and then you type in your word or phrase that you're looking for and you can jump right to every instance of it across multiple bins. For editing, it even creates very accurate inpoints based on the word.

Steve Hullfish
contributor: www.provideocoalition.com
author: "The Art and Technique of Digital Color Correction"
co-author: "Color Correction for Video: revised edition," "Avid Xpress Pro Editing Workshop" and "Avid XpressDV On the Spot"
presenter: Class On Demand's "Complete Training for Avid Media Composer" AND "Complete Training for Apple Color"
www.classondemand.net/media/final-cut-training/color01.aspx

On Mar 20, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Tod Hopkins wrote:

> The reality is that even for humans, transcription is difficult. Names, technical terms, accents, slang, poor audio quality, lack of context... Untrained and unspecialized transcription struggles to reach the level of accuracy necessary for most practical applications. With training or specialization (such as $3000 medical products) you can approach human accuracy, but that does not do us much good.
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> If you simply don't like typing, the play and repeat method (trained to your voice) is clever. But it does not capture TC (or has someone figured out how to do that?).
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> Another trick is to have interview subjects read the standard "training" text for your transcription software at the beginning of an interview. It sounds silly, but some swear by this method.
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> For some applications in our business, low accuracy is enough. As much as I truly detested it when I tried it, Adobe Premiere has automated transcription. In my tests of material with which a human would have no problem, it was wildly inaccurate. So much so that the result could not be read for sense, so I abandoned it. However, as a very simple "finding" tool for an editor, it MIGHT be helpful. It may also have improved but I doubt it.
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> On Mar 20, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Tony Breuer wrote:
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>> I totally agree with you Curtis. I'm only asking because the client was curious. I told her the software solution is not a good one.
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>> You have self-checkout at a grocery store? Luckily that hasn't reached us here in the mountains.....yet. Although Home Depot has it.
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>> Sad.
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>> Tony
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>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Curtis Nichols <curtisnpcs@...> wrote:
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>>> I understand how appealing it is to find software that make transcription easy and maybe cheap. But remember that if this product ever reaches the point of being dependable, people lose jobs. It will be sad to see another group tossed aside by technology. That's why I skip the self checkout at the grocery store.
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>>> Curtis Nichols
>>> Señor Editor
>>> PCS Production Co.
>>> Irving, Tx.
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>>> I am saving up for a real transcriptionist... ;-)
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> Tod Hopkins
> Hillmann & Carr Inc.
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