Saturday, March 24, 2012

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Tilt-Shift / Smallgantic Effect for MC/Symphony?

The big part of the issue as was described is not being able to define
individual point on animatte and having to stack. If you had full control
over each point with non-linear featuring control that could be shared or
branched to the focus controls. Hope that makes sense. see attached jpeg of
a effect mask with individual controls this could easily create a
non-linear blur.

On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 5:17 AM, Nick <nick@paddywack.co.uk> wrote:

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>
>
> It's not as definable as you are describing and it certainly isn't
> keyframable. You can't individually change the top and bottom focus,
> however, as you can see from the screen grab you can pull out the handles
> on either end of the swing/tilt/shift to adjust the focus top and bottom
> and the transition from focus to out of focus looks to be very linear
> rather than just the feathered effect you would get in Animatte. What you
> can do is stack Tilt effects on top of each other within Looks with little
> extra render time so you could set up independent amounts for the top and
> bottom using two effects.
>
> The Sandpit film is amazing by the way! Obviously slightly speeding up the
> footage completes the illusion as well.
>
> Nick
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "blafarm" <blafarm@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > As it seems you've used it quite a bit -- are you of the opinion that
> the tool offers the ability to apply varying amounts of independently
> controllable "focus transition" for each of the four axes?
> >
> > In other words, can you apply different amounts of "feathering" from
> sharp-to-blur on each of the four axes -- or are you stuck with just one
> global "transition level" that is applied to all four axes?
> >
> > Also, can you have multiple and trackable focus points in one shot -- or
> is it limited to one point of focus (as the screen shot suggests)?
> >
> > I know I need to demo the plugin -- just looking for some anecdotal
> feedback.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Nick" <nick@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Magic Bullet looks 2 is awesome and can do the effect you want as well
> > > as a myriad of other things, well worth the investment.Here is a shot I
> > > recently put the effect on using looks:
> > > Swing Tilt example <http://www.paddywack.co.uk/Avid/TiltShift.jpg>
> > >
> > > and here is the interface:
> > > Looks 2 interface
> > > <http://www.paddywack.co.uk/Avid/TiltShiftInterface.jpg>
> > >
> > > The key is to have a source shot that is going to help the illusion
> i.e.
> > > a wide shot looking down from above.
> > > Have a look at the opening titles for the brilliant BBC version of
> > > Sherlock for some excellent examples of how to do it:Sherlock
> > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZABO1mNuSc>
> > >
> > > Good luck
> > > Nick
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "blafarm" <blafarm@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks everyone for your kind suggestions.
> > > >
> > > > My issues with Animatte and Avid Blur -- or Boris Lens Blur (for that
> > > matter) -- have always been that they both are somewhat handicapped by
> > > Animatte's limited feathering tool. Can you get close? Yeah, but you
> > > can't get all the way there.
> > > >
> > > > @Alan: Thanks for your Magic Bullet recommendation -- I'll give the
> > > demo a shot.
> > > >
> > > > @Terence: Thanks for the video link.
> > > >
> > > > @Benjamin: Thanks for the Sapphire recommendation -- I wish that
> > > product were a bit less expensive -- as reconciling its cost is a bit
> > > harder considering my typical workflow.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Benjamin Hershleder Ben@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm jumping into this thread late, so apologies if this has already
> > > been mentioned:
> > > > > Have you checked out GenArts' Sapphire effects? They have a really
> > > great defocus that might do the trick. They have a trial period too
> (and
> > > you can rent the package for about $250 for a month rather than buy it
> > > outright).
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH,
> > > > >
> > > > > B
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> > > > > On Mar 22, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Alan Miller wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I want to believe them but I know I've done this exact thing with
> > > Magic Bullet.
> > > > > > Why don't you download a demo copy and try it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alan Miller
> > > > > > 48 Hours Mystery
> > > > > > CBS News
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > From: blafarm blafarm@
> > > > > > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:51 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Tilt-Shift / Smallgantic Effect for
> > > MC/Symphony?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I contacted Magic Bullet and provided them with those exact
> > > examples. They indicated they had a lens shift type effect -- but it
> > > couldn't achieve those results.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And, I've experimented with Animatte -- but could not simulate a
> > > smooth and gradual focus transition from sharp to blur. Maybe it's me
> > > -- but Animatte's toolset does not seem to offer the range that would
> be
> > > required to achieve that visual effect.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Alan Miller <ammfx@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Magic Bullet has Tilt-Shift. But you could do it with animatte
> > > too.
> > > > > > > Alan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Alan Miller
> > > > > > > 48 Hours Mystery
> > > > > > > CBS News
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > From: blafarm <blafarm@>
> > > > > > > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:20 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [Avid-L2] Tilt-Shift / Smallgantic Effect for
> > > MC/Symphony?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anyone know of a MC/Symphony plugin that offers a reasonable
> > > facsimile of the visual effect frequently called "Tilt-Shift" or
> > > "Smallgantic" -- which creates selective focus simulating a miniature
> > > scene?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Tilt-Shift Wikipedia:
> > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/lsurgx
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Smallgantic Wikipedia:
> > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/73wd4pm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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