I've said it before. For the longest time tape to tape color correction was done with an edl and it worked just fine. Between power windows and other tricks the Davinci guys made it work. The video mix down approach makes a lot of sense because it eliminates the unsupported plug ins and all the myriad of issues when two systems try to handle native media to only one of the systems. It would be great to have all the access we do in Symphony but with the Davinci color corrector but as has been pointed out. The round trips has a lot of gotchas and starts to become very similar to FCP to Color round tripping. So for the time being the most workable solution seems to be bake out a file, or mixdown, or lay to tape then ingest the tape to Davinci and color away like the not so old days. No codec issues, no plug in compatibility issues etc.... We've been spoiled into thinking we can do everything and have access to all the parts down the line that will happen but it's never been a good investment to count on different companies to play nice and work perfectly with each other. In linear days Sony and Ampex editors did great slo match but the others didn't hmmmmm. Nobody ever made a conversion for moves from ADO to Abekus or Kscope that I know of. Avid's AAF dark channels ring a bell. Nobody wants to give away their secrets to a competing company. I've played a little with the davince round trip on simple cut sequences and it's more effort than it's worth for the brunt of my online work.
--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "blafarm" <blafarm@...> wrote:
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> -- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "haus" <switthaus@> wrote:
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> > This is something I hope Dave (from Avid) hears loud and clear too...one product now, please.
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> I don't think there's a hearing aide loud enough for that. We seem stuck in a "product differentiation" scheme that no longer makes sense to anyone -- except the manufacturer.
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> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "haus" <switthaus@> wrote:
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> > This is something I hope Dave (from Avid) hears loud and clear too...one product now, please.
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> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Shirley Gutierrez <guanacaa@> wrote:
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> > > Given the fact that the Symphony tools are so superannuated, COULD WE AT LEAST INCLUDE THEM IN THE BASIC MC RELEASE??
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> > >
> > > Sorry! Sorry! I'm here having to do an online for a marketing piece without even the Symphony toolset, since I'm working in MC, and believe me, I could stand to desaturate these highlights, something I can do without extra plugins in FCP 7. Come on folks! Stop acting like Symphony CC is something users should have to pay extra for! That much should be standard in every Avid product.
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> > > Shirley
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> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Steve Hullfish <steve4lists@>
> > > To: Avid-L2 <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thu, Mar 22, 2012 4:42 am
> > > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Dear Avid: Baselight and Resolve let's go!
> > >
> > >
> > > I thought Avid was toting their relationship/workflow with Baselight last year.
> > > No way it becomes a plugin, but Avid definitely either needs to make itself a
> > > TIGHT companion to Resolve, Baselight or Speedgrade OR it has to finally add -
> > > AFTER MORE THAN A FRICKING DECADE - some 21st century color correction tools.
> > >
> > > It is an EPIC FAIL that Avid starts out on top of the game in this regard, with
> > > this GREAT cc workflow, then rests on their laurels after the very first
> > > release. Greg Staten promised me a supercool cc tool "just give us 18 months." I
> > > think that was 6 NAB's ago.
> > >
> > > Even the Symphony color correction tools are pathetic compared to the current
> > > competition. At this point even iMoviePro might be better.
> > >
> > > Steve Hullfish
> > > contributor: www.provideocoalition.com
> > > author: "The Art and Technique of Digital Color Correction"
> > >
> > > On Mar 22, 2012, at 2:58 AM, Dylan Reeve wrote:
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> > > > Given the current cost of Resolve I'd say we're not likely to get a plugin
> > > > version, but further improving the workflow between Media Composer and
> > > > Resolve would be handy.
> > > >
> > > > As for Baselight - I wouldn't be holding my breath.
> > >
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> > > Search the official Complete Avid-L archives at: http://archives.bengrosser.com/avid/
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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