An argument in favor if after effects... Or maybe premiere? Uhg.
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On Jan 20, 2012, at 9:30 AM, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@aol.com> wrote:
> The HD is being rasterized to SD before the effect. Sorry.
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> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Greg Huson <Greg@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hmm. Interesting. I think you might be right, but I had always assumed the opposite. Wonder if someone from Avid can confirm the signal path: if I put an HD clip in an sd timeline, then apply a reformat (or 3d warp, let's say) and 'zoom in,' is the HD being rasterizerd as SD BEFORE it hits the next effect, or am I using the full resolution of the HD clip to make my resize?
> >
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> > I'm adding the Avid-L as I'm not sure if Avid employees cruise the FCP list.
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> > On Jan 20, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Michael Hancock <mhancockeditor@...> wrote:
> >
> > > If I understand this post and the Creative Cow post, I believe the OP wants
> > > resolution independence, which is unavailable in MC. If you want to take
> > > HD, blow it up to 100% in an SD timeline and reframe it you can't. MC will
> > > resize the HD footage to SD, so there's no scaling it back up as you would
> > > in FCP. You need to go to After Effects or AvidFX (BorisRed) or another
> > > program that allows this.
> > >
> > > Otherwise, as stated, you letterbox or centerpunch (which does allow you to
> > > reframe left and right a bit, but does not preserve the full HD resolution).
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:10 AM, <Greg@...> wrote:
> > >
> > >> **
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hmm. Seems like something's amis.
> > >>
> > >> Media composer handles this very elegantly, actually, but it's certainly
> > >> not intuitive for the FCP convert. When you left MC, it didn't do this
> > >> at all, so don't be surprised you don't remember how to do it.
> > >>
> > >> Based on your description, I assume you're working in a 4x3 SD sequence.
> > >> Media composer will make the HD material anamorphic by default. I
> > >> think this is what you mean by squeeze.
> > >>
> > >> You have a couple choices here (typical Media Composer, there's more
> > >> than one way to do anything. I'm doing this from memory as I'm not in
> > >> front of a system, so forgive me if I miss a step or label something
> > >> wrong.)
> > >>
> > >> The choice that's more FCP-like, in my opinion, is to use the 'reformat'
> > >> effect. Apply the reformat effect, open the effect editor, and set the
> > >> source to 16x9 anamorphic and the target to either center cut or 16x9
> > >> letterbox. You're done.
> > >>
> > >> The method that I prefer is in the source bin. Click on the bin. In
> > >> the pulldown menu, there's a selection called 'choose columns' (which
> > >> used to be called 'Bin Headings.') [Remember that all the information
> > >> is in every clip- or at least the field for all the information is
> > >> there- The bin 'columns' are just what you choose to display.] There's
> > >> a new 'bin column' specifically for reformatting media in a foreign -
> > >> frame - size project. (Remember that in media composer, the sequence
> > >> size/rate is dictated by the frame project frame size and rate.) Once
> > >> you display the reformat column, you can click on that column and change
> > >> the default reformat for any given clip- sort of like setting the
> > >> downcovert method in a VTR - Squeeze, common top and bottom, or common
> > >> sides. (I don't remember
> > >>
> > >> You may have to re-insert the clip once you change the reformat
> > >> column... I don't really remember.
> > >>
> > >> Media composer will automatically choose what it thinks is the best
> > >> motion conversion scheme - but you can change that by opening... uh... I
> > >> think it's called the motion editor? The button for it is the same
> > >> symbol as the old slow-mo tool, but it's normally on the left hand side
> > >> of the timeline display, over there by the color correction mode button.
> > >> I work so much in mix-rate-and-size timelines that my default display
> > >> settings have the motion effect editor open already.
> > >>
> > >> Also, if you AMA, there's yet another 'reformat' type function that
> > >> allows you to adjust color space and interlace type if media composer
> > >> guesses wrong. That's a right-mouse-click on the source clip, then
> > >> select 'source settings.' I don't think that's available if it's not an
> > >> AMA'd clip.
> > >>
> > >> Hope that helps a little!
> > >>
> > >> -------------------------------------
> > >> Greg Huson
> > >> Chief
> > >> Greg (at) SecretHQ.com
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -------- Original Message --------
> > >> Subject: [FCP-L] MC6 HD in SD Timeline
> > >> From: "benny@..." <benny@...>
> > >> Date: Fri, January 20, 2012 8:48 am
> > >> To: FinalCutPro-L@yahoogroups.com
> > >>
> > >> I posted this yesterday on Creative cow's Avid forum. I am trying
> > >> to figure out how to edit multiple formats to recreate edits done in
> > >> FCP.
> > >>
> > >> First of all, as one of the Avid exodus considering coming back into
> > >> the fold, I am amazed at how much I have forgotten and how foreign it
> > >> feels to edit in MC compared to FCP.
> > >>
> > >> So I downloaded the MC 6 Trial and here's my problem - I need to edit
> > >> footage shot in 1080i into a SD timeline. But it only squeezes the
> > >> footage and it then seems to have to blow it up way past 100% and I have
> > >> to add an effect to position it. This can't be right.
> > >>
> > >> This is really straight forward in FCP.
> > >>
> > >> You edit the footage and you choose whether it is letterboxes or zoomed
> > >> in. Then you can pan and/or scan the position for the framing you want
> > >> in the edit window. Render and you are done.
> > >>
> > >> So how do you handle different frame sizes and different aspect ratio
> > >> footage in MC6?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks.
> > >>
> > >> Benny Christensen
> > >> Producers Playhouse
> > >> Oklahoma City
> > >> 405-858-0700
> > >>
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