Hmm. Interesting. I think you might be right, but I had always assumed the opposite. Wonder if someone from Avid can confirm the signal path: if I put an HD clip in an sd timeline, then apply a reformat (or 3d warp, let's say) and 'zoom in,' is the HD being rasterizerd as SD BEFORE it hits the next effect, or am I using the full resolution of the HD clip to make my resize?
I'm adding the Avid-L as I'm not sure if Avid employees cruise the FCP list.
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On Jan 20, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Michael Hancock <mhancockeditor@gmail.com> wrote:
> If I understand this post and the Creative Cow post, I believe the OP wants
> resolution independence, which is unavailable in MC. If you want to take
> HD, blow it up to 100% in an SD timeline and reframe it you can't. MC will
> resize the HD footage to SD, so there's no scaling it back up as you would
> in FCP. You need to go to After Effects or AvidFX (BorisRed) or another
> program that allows this.
>
> Otherwise, as stated, you letterbox or centerpunch (which does allow you to
> reframe left and right a bit, but does not preserve the full HD resolution).
>
> Michael
>
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:10 AM, <Greg@secrethq.com> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Hmm. Seems like something's amis.
>>
>> Media composer handles this very elegantly, actually, but it's certainly
>> not intuitive for the FCP convert. When you left MC, it didn't do this
>> at all, so don't be surprised you don't remember how to do it.
>>
>> Based on your description, I assume you're working in a 4x3 SD sequence.
>> Media composer will make the HD material anamorphic by default. I
>> think this is what you mean by squeeze.
>>
>> You have a couple choices here (typical Media Composer, there's more
>> than one way to do anything. I'm doing this from memory as I'm not in
>> front of a system, so forgive me if I miss a step or label something
>> wrong.)
>>
>> The choice that's more FCP-like, in my opinion, is to use the 'reformat'
>> effect. Apply the reformat effect, open the effect editor, and set the
>> source to 16x9 anamorphic and the target to either center cut or 16x9
>> letterbox. You're done.
>>
>> The method that I prefer is in the source bin. Click on the bin. In
>> the pulldown menu, there's a selection called 'choose columns' (which
>> used to be called 'Bin Headings.') [Remember that all the information
>> is in every clip- or at least the field for all the information is
>> there- The bin 'columns' are just what you choose to display.] There's
>> a new 'bin column' specifically for reformatting media in a foreign -
>> frame - size project. (Remember that in media composer, the sequence
>> size/rate is dictated by the frame project frame size and rate.) Once
>> you display the reformat column, you can click on that column and change
>> the default reformat for any given clip- sort of like setting the
>> downcovert method in a VTR - Squeeze, common top and bottom, or common
>> sides. (I don't remember
>>
>> You may have to re-insert the clip once you change the reformat
>> column... I don't really remember.
>>
>> Media composer will automatically choose what it thinks is the best
>> motion conversion scheme - but you can change that by opening... uh... I
>> think it's called the motion editor? The button for it is the same
>> symbol as the old slow-mo tool, but it's normally on the left hand side
>> of the timeline display, over there by the color correction mode button.
>> I work so much in mix-rate-and-size timelines that my default display
>> settings have the motion effect editor open already.
>>
>> Also, if you AMA, there's yet another 'reformat' type function that
>> allows you to adjust color space and interlace type if media composer
>> guesses wrong. That's a right-mouse-click on the source clip, then
>> select 'source settings.' I don't think that's available if it's not an
>> AMA'd clip.
>>
>> Hope that helps a little!
>>
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>> Greg (at) SecretHQ.com
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: [FCP-L] MC6 HD in SD Timeline
>> From: "benny@producersplayhouse.com" <benny@producersplayhouse.com>
>> Date: Fri, January 20, 2012 8:48 am
>> To: FinalCutPro-L@yahoogroups.com
>>
>> I posted this yesterday on Creative cow's Avid forum. I am trying
>> to figure out how to edit multiple formats to recreate edits done in
>> FCP.
>>
>> First of all, as one of the Avid exodus considering coming back into
>> the fold, I am amazed at how much I have forgotten and how foreign it
>> feels to edit in MC compared to FCP.
>>
>> So I downloaded the MC 6 Trial and here's my problem - I need to edit
>> footage shot in 1080i into a SD timeline. But it only squeezes the
>> footage and it then seems to have to blow it up way past 100% and I have
>> to add an effect to position it. This can't be right.
>>
>> This is really straight forward in FCP.
>>
>> You edit the footage and you choose whether it is letterboxes or zoomed
>> in. Then you can pan and/or scan the position for the framing you want
>> in the edit window. Render and you are done.
>>
>> So how do you handle different frame sizes and different aspect ratio
>> footage in MC6?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Benny Christensen
>> Producers Playhouse
>> Oklahoma City
>> 405-858-0700
>>
>> "Well, the telling of jokes is an art of its own, and it always rises
>> from some emotional threat. The best jokes are dangerous, and dangerous
>> because they are in some way truthful."- Kurt Vonnegut (Cold Turkey)
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