Saturday, November 12, 2011

[Avid-L2] Re: 56TB of XDCam Virtual volumes AMA reliability?

 

My fear is how to figure out which volumes that need to be mounted because they will be in various parent folders etc... And footage comes from all over the span of the shoot for any given episode. Even if it was just one day that's 216 ama virtual volumes to mount which I understand could all be in one parent folder and linking to the parent will link to the sub folders of virtual volumes. Are 216 ama volumes mounted at once be stable? Ultimately once ama'd we'd transcode for online but having to wade through all the virtual volumes to mount seem potentially problematic. At minimum there be around 500 virtual volumes to mount for an episode. Doing the transcode seems very tidious compared to a tape based workflow.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Dom Q. Silverio" <domqsilverio@...> wrote:
>
> You can selectively AMA relink for the online so you do not have to
> mount 4,500 virtual volumes simultaneously.
>
>
>
> On 11/12/2011 2:50 PM, johnrobmoore wrote:
> > Just to clarify. The work flow suggested would be to copy all the XDCam discs to the san. From there ama and transcode to 10:1 for offline. That part is reasonable in my mind and solid. The big concern I have is thinking my symphony or any of the other mcsofts is going to be able to reliably relink to the XDCam virtual volumes when the number will be over 4,500. Having to open that many ama linked bins seems very risky. As I previously posted I did suggest the consolidate approach but was told no for the reasons I already mentioned.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Dom Q. Silverio"<domqsilverio@> wrote:
> >> I agree - AMA then Consolidate would be the best workflow here.
> >> Performance and stability would be far superior compared to AMA links
> >> during the editing process.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/12/2011 11:10 AM, Robert Lawson wrote:
> >>> XDCam HD is a native format for Media Composer. If you're copying 56TB
> >>> to your SAN anyway, you may as well import into Avid. It's a re-wrap
> >>> more than a transcode, so it doesn't really take any more time than a
> >>> file copy.
> >>>
> >>> Your Avid will thank you for it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 11/12/11, Shawn Broes<shawn.broes@> wrote:
> >>>> Have Plan B in place?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Terence Curren<tcurren@> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> **
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I love AMA when used appropriately. That said, I would never commit a
> >>>>> project to using it on a long term, multi-workstation workflow.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, John Moore<bigfish@> wrote:
> >>>>>> I think I know the answer but wanted to ask the group. Copying 24 hour
> >>>>> XDCamHD disks/day times 9 cameras for 3 weeks would yield 4,536 Virtual
> >>>>> Volumes. Assuming that each day is in a parent folder for the day with
> >>>>> 216
> >>>>> Virtual volumes inside there would be 21 Parent/Day folders with 216 files
> >>>>> each. Come online is it conceivable that all I would have to do is mount
> >>>>> the 21 day parent folders and the sequences would link through ama to the
> >>>>> virtual XDCam volumes in the parent folders. This would happen after the
> >>>>> Virtual volumes have been ama'd and transcoded to 10:1 for offline in 9
> >>>>> camera multicam groups. I find this a big if to think that big of
> >>>>> something filling up a 56TB san with virtual volumes will link through ama
> >>>>> reliably. We already have the infrastructure to do the show on DVCProHD
> >>>>> tape which would be my preference but this workflow is being considered.
> >>>>> Any thoughts or suggestions appreciated and of course they start shooting
> >>>>> in less
> >>>>>> three weeks so there's not much time to test the feasibility of this on
> >>>>> a large scale.
> >>>>>> John Moore
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Barking Trout Productions
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Studio City, CA
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> bigfish@
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
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