well, i'm cranky as i've got fined 4000 euros for having an alien friend
help me for 10 minutes, on a job i did as a favour for my neighbours.
And reading up on legal stuff, there will be a cold day in hell before i win
this case.
That however only explains part of me gettting pissed over the file based
bashing. Yes, my tone was more harsh than my normal pleasant arrogance, but
when i'll have time i'll respond to this in a more normal uncivilized way.
Bouke
VideoToolShed
van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
6512 AS NIJMEGEN
The Netherlands
+31 24 3553311
www.videotoolshed.com
For large files:
http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terence Curren" <tcurren@aol.com>
To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 12:47 AM
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Hard Drive Shortages to Drive Up Cost of Video
Editing
Bouke,
Who got you all cranky today? So I am not allowed to complain about the
issues with file based workflows now? I'm not telling you that you have to
use tape. I really don't care what you use. But the reality is that the file
based workflows are the wild west right now, and that is causing a lot of
folks pain. And I see more than my share of that pain.
Obviously you think file based is great. I think is is less efficient
than the tape based workflows we have in place for many users and yes,
especially in my universe. Let's just leave it at.
--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "bouke" <bouke@...> wrote:
>
> Lacks of standards?
> Over here, SONY defines standards, together with a few techs that are
> retired now.
> What is a 'standard' other than one simple rule you need to know to
> deliver
> your shit?
> In the rest of the world, there are zillion of 'standards'. If i want to
> buy
> a simple rod of steel (i need one right now), i get the option of 38 kind
> of
> different ones.
> Now you can define that as bad, you can also define that as good. I prefer
> the latter, since i like to have the options.
>
> The fact that public broadcaster techs are plain stupid (and believe me,
> i've got a lot more stories like yours) does not count as an argument for
> 'tape being better than file'. The same shit happened in tape delivery
> also.
> The one and sole reason i've bought a DVW500 is to be able to tell other
> parties to shut up, since my stuff is on Digibeta it MUST BE GOOD. And it
> worked.
>
> But that has nothing to do with Terry's bitching.
> I for one can't see why one must invest in high priced hardware to deliver
> up to specs. I also fail to see why digital delivery has anything to do
> with
> 'lack of specs'.
> Those are different things.
> And Terry's arguments in the past are something i can write something
> about,
> but not tonite.
>
> Bouke
>
> VideoToolShed
> van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> The Netherlands
> +31 24 3553311
> www.videotoolshed.com
> For large files:
> http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Job ter Burg (L2B)" <Job_L2@...>
> To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Hard Drive Shortages to Drive Up Cost of Video
> Editing
>
>
>
> Bouke,
>
> What exactly makes digital file-based delivery so much better?
> Seriously, I'm interested in your opinion.
>
> To me, in its current state, it represents lack of standards combined with
> confusion, if not chaos.
>
> To illustrate: for a TV-job a few months ago, I received the ident of a
> public broadcaster, in an Apple IMX codec and in H264, both obviously
> straight from FCP. They couldn't tell me the color space it was in (or
> should be in).
>
> The H264, which they claimed most folks used, was completely off,
> gamma-wise. They said I was the first to mention it. I have watched that
> ident on TV from time to time. Nice, crushed blacks, and H264 artifacting
> all over the place in 80% of the cases.
>
> Now I know some people will always screw things up, but I do recall that a
> DigiBeta tape with bars and tone (and an inlay) would often at least
> indicate what you would be dealing with. Compared to files in "some" color
> space (take a guess) and "some" codec (never mind platform compatibility),
> no bars, no tone, no information, no metadata.
>
> Again, this is just my narrow view and recent experience. On the Digital
> Cinema side, things seem a bit brighter.
>
> Job.
>
> On 27 okt. 2011, at 23:18, bouke wrote:
>
> > Terry, you've been bitching about this too much lateley.
> >
> > The fact that it is not for your business does not make you have a valid
> > point.
> > The world is bigger than your shop. Learn to live with it.
> >
>
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