Friday, October 7, 2011

[Avid-L2] Re: AVCHD Hell

 

Well, it appears my posts are taking about 9 hours to make it to Yahoo today....

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
>
> I was kind of answering two different things at the same time. AMA workflow is the solution to not having to reimport entire files in the uprez stage.
>
> Converting externally is the best way to deal with these nasty consumer formats like AVCHD for now. Hopefully they will be supported by AMA eventually.
>
> Or better yet, folks could stop trying to fit a round peg in a square hole and use pro cameras for pro work...
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <mhancockeditor@> wrote:
> >
> > You can't AMA avchd can you? Or do you mean convert to dnxhd quicktimes, AMA those, offline, etc...?
> >
> > It would help if MC could AMA avchd though. Version 6 maybe?
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Terence Curren" <tcurren@>
> > Sender: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 16:27:00
> > To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > Reply-To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: AVCHD Hell
> >
> > My point is, convert them externally to DNxHD and then batch import them. The import process will be MUCH faster and it won't hang.
> >
> > This is one good argument for the AMA workflow. Mount your movies via AMA, Convert to offline resolution and edit. Then in online, remount AMA and relink to hi-res version.
> >
> > Doesn't help you at this point though.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Quinsee-Jover" <tony@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Trouble is they won't then batch-import. Remember this is a conform job.
> > >
> > >
> > > HD Heaven Media Limited (company no: 07061040) is registered in England and
> > > Wales at Sapphire Heights Courtyard, 31 Tenby Street North, Birmingham B1
> > > 3ES
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Terence Curren
> > > Sent: 07 October 2011 16:44
> > > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: AVCHD Hell
> > >
> > >
> > > Or convert them externally to Avid.
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Quinsee-Jover" <tony@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Steve.
> > > >
> > > > T.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > HD Heaven Media Limited (company no: 07061040) is registered in
> > > > England and Wales at Sapphire Heights Courtyard, 31 Tenby Street
> > > > North, Birmingham B1 3ES
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On
> > > > Behalf Of Steve Hullfish
> > > > Sent: 07 October 2011 16:35
> > > > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] AVCHD Hell
> > > >
> > > > There was just a thread on this.
> > > >
> > > > For some reason - a bug? - if you try importing too many AVCHD files
> > > > at once, it will choke on one of the files that hangs everything FOREVER.
> > > >
> > > > If you do them one at a time or in smaller (though still relatively
> > > > large
> > > > batches) it will import quite quickly.
> > > >
> > > > The actual import of the files isn't bad. I just did an entire project
> > > > like this. When I did 60 files at once, it would inevitably hang on a
> > > > single file. In batches of 20 or 30 files at a time, they came in pretty
> > > quickly.
> > > >
> > > > It's a pain, but that's the solution as far as I can tell.
> > > >
> > > > Steve Hullfish
> > > > contributor: www.provideocoalition.com
> > > > author: "The Art and Technique of Digital Color Correction"
> > > > co-author: "Color Correction for Video: revised edition," "Avid Xpress
> > > > Pro Editing Workshop" and "Avid XpressDV On the Spot"
> > > > presenter: Class On Demand's "Complete Training for Avid Media
> > > > Composer" AND "Complete Training for Apple Color"
> > > > www.classondemand.net/media/final-cut-training/color01.aspx
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Oct 7, 2011, at 7:49 AM, Tony Quinsee-Jover wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi guys,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've asked this question on the Avid forums, but knowing that all
> > > > > the best minds hang out here I thought this might actually be a
> > > > > better place to pose my dilemma.
> > > > > Our client offlined a half hour (24 min) show in PAL 16:9 using
> > > > > maybe 30% HD mts files from a Panasonic MC1P camera. They pulled all
> > > > > these files in at
> > > > > 10:1 on their MC. I now have to online this show. It will be
> > > > > finished on DS, but this question isn't DS related. This is also
> > > > > Prog 1 of a series of shows, so this workflow needs to get nailed.
> > > > > I opened the sequence on MC and consolidated it with 10f handles.
> > > > > I selected "Batch Import" on the MC from the consolidated sequence,
> > > > > selected MXF2:1, and pointed it to all the mts files.
> > > > > After 48 hours MC still hadn't imported 50% of the files and the
> > > > > file it was currently working on said that it had 34 hours to go!
> > > > > Those files which had been imported appeared to be full length,
> > > > > rather than consolidated, meaning that many of them were 30 minutes
> > > > > or more, for maybe 1 sec used.
> > > > > It's been suggested that I'm asking a lot of a 32 bit application to
> > > > > not only import but also rescale all the horrid files, so would I be
> > > > > better importing them at HD (say DNxHD 185) and then switching back
> > > > > to my SD timeline and then consolidating the media to SD? Would MC
> > > > > then only be converting the few seconds used instead of the whole file?
> > > > > Sorry if this last sentence is using some wrong terminology, but I'm
> > > > > no expert on MC these days.
> > > > > Cheers in advance,
> > > > > Tony
> > > > >
> > > > > HD Heaven Media Limited (company no: 07061040) is registered in
> > > > > England and Wales at Sapphire Heights Courtyard, 31 Tenby Street
> > > > > North, Birmingham B1 3ES
> > > > >
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