Sunday, September 11, 2011

[Avid-L2] Re: Remote play

 

Here are the Avid specs from the link provided in this thread. I'm not sure I follow pin 4 and 6. What is Transmit common and Receive common. I thought transmit A&B and Receive A&B are balanced pairs I don't see what they would have a common for. That's not part of the RS-422 deck control I've wired up. It's always pins 1-3 and 7-9 that I use. I tried getting two mac mcsoft 3.x systems to work today trying the RS-422 patch bay cable cross over patch that FF mentioned but I could not get it to work. I tried controlling the avid in remote play with all the setting and port assignment to port 1 of the keyspan adapter using another avid and a DVW=500 but couldn't get it to talk. I did get it to the point of the yellow box around the Play button. If I wire up the Avid PC version to go from the keyspans male 9 pin out of the avid to the RS-422 patch bay should that work? If I set up one avid in remote play mode emulating a BVW-70 and hook up the avid spec'd vtr emulation cable should I be able to control it from another avid? I would think so. Would the avid auto config to another avid system set up in remote play mode with the proper vtr emulation cable?

Pin out of VTR emulation cables:

VTR emulation cable for Mac: 0070-00205-01
8 pin mini DIN Male 9 Pin Female D-Sub
6 7
8 3
3 2
4 1+9 (tied together)
5 8
1,2,7 not used 4,5,6 not used

VTR emulation cable for PC: 0070-00506-01
9 Pin Male D-Sub 9 Pin Female D-Sub
1 Frame Ground 1 Frame Ground
2 Receive A 8 Receive A
3 Transmit B 7 Transmit B
4 Transmit Common 6 Transmit Common
5 Spare 5 Spare
6 Receive Common 4 Receive Common
7 Receive B 3 Receive B
8 Transmit A 2 Transmit A
9 Frame Ground 9 Frame Ground

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:
>
> Well then break out your ohm meter Jeff and tell us the correct pin configuration. I'm sure the guys at ABC did that once you bought the cable. Heck they use to wire up remote TBC controls for the BVU-800 TBC with some pots and a rack panel saving the need to buy the sony remote box. It's not always about the money Jeff sometimes it's about figuring it out.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "jeffsengpiehl" <jeffsengpiehl@> wrote:
> >
> > Following the specs given in your forum post DO NOT WORK. It's not that they couldn't figure it out, it's that the pinning is WRONG for this application. There is being frugal, and then there is being a cheap ass. Buy the freaking cable.
> >
> > JDS
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> > >
> > > That's just what I was thinking. Those RS-422 patch panels that use two audio patch cords seem like they would reverse the tx and rx just by patching the criss cross instead of straight across. So you're saying that works? If so I'm hard pressed to see how the ABC folks couldn't make a cable to do the same. I know first hand many of those guys are top notch techs. All it would take is an ohm meter to verify the pins on the Avid cable. Greg I'll solder one up early next week and if it works you owe me an OKI dog. Of course I'm not sure what the protools control element might do. Do you have a 422 patch at Secret HQ that would allow for this patch bay trick?
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Felker" <FJFelker@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The trick I used was to wire the cross connections between two ports on our
> > > > 422 patch panel. That way, one just had to patch an Avid through the crossed
> > > > patches to the remote controller in the machine room. Flexible and
> > > > fool-resistant.
> > > >
> > > > frank felker
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > > > jeffsengpiehl
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 9:40 PM
> > > > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Remote play
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > No the trick is to *BUY* the special serial control cable from Avid.
> > > > I had the folks at ABC who build cables for a living follow the spec's
> > > > listed in the forums and it does NOT work. Buy the cable from Avid, and be
> > > > done with it.
> > > >
> > > > JDS
> > > >
> > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Greg Huson <Greg@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > So I guess the trick would be to build a special serial control patchbay
> > > > cable that did the crossover job - and keep that hidden in my desk! Maybe
> > > > next week...
> > > > >
> > > > > gh
> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > > > Greg Huson
> > > > > Secret Headquarters, Inc
> > > > > Post Production / Production
> > > > > Culver City, CA
> > > > > 323 677 2092
> > > > > www.DigitalServiceStation.com
> > > > > greg (at) SecretHQ.com
> > > > > facebook.com/greg.huson
> > > > > www.SecretHQ.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sep 9, 2011, at 3:14 PM, johnrobmoore wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Here's an old thread on the cross over cable pin out etc....
> > > > > > http://community.avid.com/forums/p/9388/53107.aspx#53107
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Gajit" <jonathan@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here is a link to the remote play info site.
> > > > http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=243637
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > you can order the cables from avid...but if you have an engineer
> > > > handy, I believe it is a matter of simply switching a couple pins in the
> > > > cable. The cable is called a 422 cross-over cable or a machine control
> > > > cable.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Greg Huson <Greg@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes- video satellite. I should pay extra to link two bays
> > > > together... grrrrr....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > gh
> > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > Greg Huson
> > > > > > > > Secret Headquarters, Inc
> > > > > > > > Post Production / Production
> > > > > > > > Culver City, CA
> > > > > > > > 323 677 2092
> > > > > > > > www.DigitalServiceStation.com
> > > > > > > > greg (at) SecretHQ.com
> > > > > > > > facebook.com/greg.huson
> > > > > > > > www.SecretHQ.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Terence Curren wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There is also the video satellite approach with PT.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "bouke" <bouke@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Should work, at least it used to work...
> > > > > > > > > > But, you need the correct cabling.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Bouke
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > VideoToolShed
> > > > > > > > > > van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> > > > > > > > > > 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> > > > > > > > > > The Netherlands
> > > > > > > > > > +31 24 3553311
> > > > > > > > > > www.videotoolshed.com
> > > > > > > > > > For large files:
> > > > > > > > > > http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > From: "Greg Huson" <Greg@>
> > > > > > > > > > To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 11:46 PM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Remote play
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Mac, and I was trying to drag my avid around using my protools
> > > > system's
> > > > > > > > > > > tape controls. I guess that's not going to work...
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > gh
> > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > > Greg Huson
> > > > > > > > > > > Secret Headquarters, Inc
> > > > > > > > > > > Post Production / Production
> > > > > > > > > > > Culver City, CA
> > > > > > > > > > > 323 677 2092
> > > > > > > > > > > www.DigitalServiceStation.com
> > > > > > > > > > > greg (at) SecretHQ.com
> > > > > > > > > > > facebook.com/greg.huson
> > > > > > > > > > > www.SecretHQ.com
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:46 PM, jeffsengpiehl wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> you need the correctly wired serial cable, not a stock one,
> > > > and you need
> > > > > > > > > > >> to replace your microsoft serial driver.
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> JDS
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Greg Huson <Greg@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > >> > I'm trying to use remote play on a symphony 5.5.3, but the
> > > > option is
> > > > > > > > > > >> > grayed out. Anyone using this feature?
> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > >> > gh
> > > > > > > > > > >> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > >> > Greg Huson
> > > > > > > > > > >> > Secret Headquarters, Inc
> > > > > > > > > > >> > Post Production / Production
> > > > > > > > > > >> > Culver City, CA
> > > > > > > > > > >> > 323 677 2092
> > > > > > > > > > >> > www.DigitalServiceStation.com
> > > > > > > > > > >> > greg (at) SecretHQ.com
> > > > > > > > > > >> > facebook.com/greg.huson
> > > > > > > > > > >> > www.SecretHQ.com
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