As Frank pointed out, the syntax for PhraseFind is untested and unsupported, but since you can't really blow anything up, and the worst that can happen is to start the search over again, following are some additional optimizations you can consider when searching footage phonetically.
The span based search, as discussed is a great one, as it goes beyond the single word result and actually allows you to whittle down footage based on context of the dialog. Quickly finding footage is even better when you can target the context of the terms being searched as there is no "post processing" filter for that type of search. It happens as part of the search. So in addition to what Frank referred to using a time-based operator:
[Term1 &10 Term 2] ... searches for files that contain Term1 and Term2 within ten seconds of one another. This can be used to identify 2 or more words within a certain amount of time in a file. You can even go for multiple search terms and spans: [Term1 &5 Term2 &10 Term3] … searches for files that contain Term1 and Term2 within 5 seconds of one another, and that also contain Term3 within 10 seconds of the first two terms. Note the order dependency.
The search engine considers all words before, after and between an ampersand to be a single unique search term or phrase. Therefore, multi-word phrases such as [President Barrack Obama &10 healthcare debate] will first search for [President Barrack Obama] then separately search for [healthcare debate], and finally compares the results to determine which files contain results on both phrases within 10 seconds of one another. Only the files that meet this criteria will be returned.
Some additional search tips that will improve your PhraseFind results are:
Length of Search Term(s): As with any search engine, the more information you provide in the search term, the more relevant and accurate the results will be. Since PhraseFind is looking for the sounds a word makes, the sound of a short 3-letter words will be found in many longer words and phrases. Although technically not incorrect, these longer words may not be what you're looking for. Searching for multi-word phrases narrows the results to more accurately reflect what you're probably looking for and filter out the irrelevant results.
Characters: A general rule of thumb is to spell out every word in the search query. This includes:
Numbers: Instead of '2008', type 'two thousand eight'. Spell the number using the variation in which it is most likely to be spoken. For example, in an address, '495' is likely to be referred to as either 'four nine five' or 'four ninety five'
Acronyms: Separate acronyms that are spoken as a series of letters with spaces. For example, 'FBI' would be entered 'F B I' and 'NCAA' would most likely be entered 'N C double A'.
The documentation refers to the use or no use of symbols and punctuations except for hyphen (see below). For abbreviations, spell out an abbreviation the way it is pronounced. For example 'Mr' should be 'Mister' and 'Dr' would be 'Doctor' (or 'Drive').
Frank referred to the phonetic spelling of work will improve results, but so will the use of hyphens in certain situations. If modifications to the proper spelling of a word – particularly long, compound words -- do not improve results, try adding a hyphen between syllables – similar to a dictionary's pronunciation of a word. For example, `extraterrestrial' may be spelled out `ek-struh-tuh-res-tree-uhl'.
So like Google search and other search engines, knowing syntax can quickly refine the results you are looking for in one pass. It is a great technology, also ScriptSync brings its own unique value to how one interacts with the footage and provides additional search metadata such as action, scene, location (if drama script) as well as earch on punctuation when looking for intonation of certain words. The Search across multiple scripts will also give you a snippet of the context of that word that you can quickly read.
So have fun searching! But remember, "untested and unsupported".
Mykull ;)
--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Frank Capria <frank@...> wrote:
>
> Keep in mind that this is untested and "officially unsupported" but the
> trick is to use this syntax...
>
> Phrase1 &n Phrase2 where n= the number of seconds between occurrences. I
> believe it works better with single words than full on phrases.
>
> For example:
>
> "shaq" &3 "missed" (you are talking free throws) is better than "shaq" &3
> "free throw"
>
> Frank Capria
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> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Steve Pomerantz <sppomerantz@...>wrote:
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> > At the Editor's Lounge at Alpha Dogs a couple of weeks ago, Frank Capria
> > demo'ed MC5.5 and PhraseFind. He mentioned an "undocumented" function where
> > you could enter multiple search criteria such as "Shaq free throw" and "it's
> > good", then ask for instances where both lines occur within X seconds of one
> > another (this particular example would result in 0 matches).
> > Of course since I didn't have PF at the time, I promptly forgot how he did
> > it, and true to his word, I cannot find it in the manual. Now that I have
> > PF, I'd really like to give it a try. Does anyone who was there remember
> > how to do that?
> > Anybody?.... anybody?..... Frank?.... Frank?....
> >
> > Steve Pomerantz
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