Saturday, March 19, 2011

Re: [Avid-L2] 5D/7D timecode import bug with AMA and QTChange combo

 

Well, the interface shows SETUP FPS in fairly large typeface.
And there is a 'use current fps' option as well.
(but not all functions can use that)

Bouke

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Brockington" <mbrock321@minusblue.ca>
To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] 5D/7D timecode import bug with AMA and QTChange combo

> Good to know -- thanks, Bouke.
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> This setting is not terribly intuitive or obvious, though. Might I
> suggest it would be good if the default were for QtChange to match
> timecode rate to video rate, rather than defaulting to 25 fps? Surely
> this would be by far the more common requirement, and you could still
> change it in those cases where you needed to.
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> Regards,
> --Michael
>
> On 11-03-19 3:57 AM, Bouke wrote:
>> There is a settting. It's called FPS in the Setup menu.
>> You need to set it to match your FPS.
>> QTchange is indeed capable of inserting any TC fps on any QT fps.
>> (thus making it able to sync 23.976 material with 29.97)
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>> Also, do get the latest verion. It has a few bug fixes, allows you to
>> flatten (mostly not needed, only if you strip tracks)
>> and, it has lightning fast BITC insertion. (close to instant)
>> (It does not render the BITC in, it makes a QT text track. But very handy
>> before transcode or to hand out to clients)
>>
>> Bouke
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>> VideoToolShed
>> van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
>> 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
>> The Netherlands
>> +31 24 3553311
>> www.videotoolshed.com
>> For large files:
>> http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bogdan Grigoresco"<bogdan_grigorescu@yahoo.com>
>> To:<Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 9:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] 5D/7D timecode import bug with AMA and QTChange
>> combo
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>> Let's wait for Bouke to chime in...perhaps there is a setting/switch
>> somewhere in QTchange.
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>> cheers,
>> Bogdan Grigoresco
>> www.finale.tv
>>
>> --- On Sat, 3/19/11, Michael Brockington<mbrock321@minusblue.ca> wrote:
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>> From: Michael Brockington<mbrock321@minusblue.ca>
>> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] 5D/7D timecode import bug with AMA and QTChange
>> combo
>> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 10:39 AM
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>> Thanks for the pointer, Bogdan.
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>> It looks like the timecode track runs at a different rate than the video.
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>> CatDVPro reports the following:
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>> I would guess the mismatched 25 fps timecode rate is an artifact of
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>> QTChange being a European program that mostly cares about PAL.
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>> It looks like Avid is handling the timecode track discrepancy
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>> link. I'm working in an HD 23.98 1080p project, BTW.
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>> Now it's a total crapshoot which of the two timecode values will work in
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>> an EDL!
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>> Cheers,
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>> --Michael
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>> On 11-03-19 12:56 AM, Bogdan Grigoresco wrote:
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>>> FWIW Michael, looks like the 2 values you're getting are connected to
>>> each
>>> other by a 24<>25fps conversion, i.e. 12:29:40:13 at 25fps equals
>>> 13:00:54:18 at 24fps.
>>> Not sure why this is, nor what type of project you're in, but it's
>>> probably got something to do with the way QT change tags the files and
>>> Avid interprets them. Think BWF, where the actual start timecode of the
>>> file is number of frames since midnight, but obviously dependant on the
>>> counting base.
>>> cheers,
>>> Bogdan Grigoresco
>>> www.finale.tv
>>> --- On Sat, 3/19/11, Michael Brockington<mbrock321@minusblue.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>> From: Michael Brockington<mbrock321@minusblue.ca>
>>> Subject: [Avid-L2] 5D/7D timecode import bug with AMA and QTChange combo
>>> To: "Avid-L2"<Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 9:13 AM
>>> Got bit by an unpleasant bug today.
>>> I used QTChange to add TC to 23.98 5D/7D Quicktime files. I assigned
>>> timecode to match the .THM file, with a reelname from the enclosing
>>> foldername.
>>> After running QTChange the timecode display in Quicktime player shows
>>> the first frame of a sample clip has non-drop timecode 12:29:40:14.
>>> If imported the old-fashioned way into Avid, the start timecode shows as
>>> 12:29:40:13. OK -- I'm not sure why there's a 1 frame discrepancy, but
>>> that's pretty close.
>>> Unfortunately, if I bring the quicktimes into Avid via AMA, then the
>>> start TC reads 13:00:54:18. Now I am sad...
>>> I need to pull an EDL from a bunch of 5D clips that I brought in via
>>> AMA. Anyone else run into this problem?
>>> If anyone (Bouke, Avid AMA folks?) wants to look at the problem, I have
>>> a couple seconds of an offending quicktime I can email -- only about
>>> 5MB.
>>> Cheers,
>>> --Michael
>>> \----------------------------
>>> System specs:
>>> MC 5.0.3.5 software only, Apple MacPro 4,1 Quad-core Intel Xeon 2.26
>>> GHz, 12 GB RAM, OS 10.6.5, Quicktime 7.6.6 / 10.0 (118)
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