In case no one else has noticed, these laptops are also putting fairly recent MacPros on their guard: http://bit.ly/gyuPH3
I made the mistake of benchmarking my MBP just to compare...I'll have to lock up the credit cards for awhile now.
-gl
On Feb 24, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Tim Selander wrote:
> Found this video.
> <http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/24/intel-thunderbolt-a-closer-look/>
>
> 700MBps on a laptop? I want it!
>
>
> On 2/25/11 11:24 AM, johnrobmoore wrote:
>> Nice pithy info. Here's the part that peaked my interest:
>>
>> "Yeah, it's kind of a jungle when you consider Apple's keep-it-simple approach to I/O. It's a transitional period for the hardware, in which Apple can't leave USB behind because everyone uses it (though why they don't upgrade to 3.0 is beyond me), can't leave Firewire behind because it would alienate their hardcore buyers, can't really include more than one Thunderbolt slot, and can't use that one for anything but high-speed data (due, ironically, to their early adoption). It'll be nice for some people to have, but really, the benefit to the average Mac user is minimal; they'll appreciate the snappy and economical Sandy Bridge processors more."
>>
>> So when it says it can only be used for "High-speed data" does that exclude the display port. I don't think so but I'm curious. From the little I've read the Thunderbolt will be used as the display port among other things. I see how this technology would benefit I/O devices and storage but as we move more to file based workflows will this increase in throughput matter much when I'm crunching a file export. Is it possible that this Thunderbolt port could connect the MBP to some sort of external GPU to accelerate renders and other cpu/gpu functions?
>>
>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Mark Santora<mrsantora@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> There's any interesting take on Thunderbolt over at Techcrunch.
>>>
>>> http://www.crunchgear.com/2011/02/24/apple-has-significant-head-start-with-thunderbolt-but-not-exclusive/
>>>
>>> It's a pragmatic look at the tech and its immediate future. And as I read
>>> it, i found it to be a reasonable look at the tech's future.
>>>
>>> Mark Santora
>>> On Feb 24, 2011 3:54 PM, "Shirley Gutierrez"<guanacaa@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So long as I can hang an second display off a roaring fast, new generation
>>> iMac I'm happy. It's really not about the tower humming at your feet.
>>>>
>>>> Shirley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nat jencks<natjencks.lists@...>
>>>> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
>>>> Sent: Thu, Feb 24, 2011 3:37 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Thunderbolt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wow, that got a few responses :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Who knows. Predicting apple is a fools game... But I'll play along :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From what I understand "desktops" (including iMacs) account for 6% of
>>> apple's
>>>>
>>>> current revenue, and I would guess that almost all of that 6% is iMacs not
>>>
>>>>
>>>> MacPros.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The MacPro is one of the only pieces of hardware that Apple makes that is
>>>>
>>>> indistinct from competitors hardware. A MacPro is almost identical to a
>>> typical
>>>>
>>>> HP/Dell/whoever workstation, but boxed in brushed aluminum. It's commodity
>>>
>>>>
>>>> hardware and Apple brings nothing special to the table.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> During the last keynote when they showed a picture of the Apple product
>>> lineup
>>>>
>>>> behind Steve Jobs, and he pronounced that Apple was "the largest portable
>>>>
>>>> computing company in the world" the macpro was conspicuously absent.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It seems to me that Apple's commitment to Desktops is grudging at best.
>>> They
>>>>
>>>> took almost 2 years to update them during the last product cycle, and only
>>> then
>>>>
>>>> because it was becoming an embarrassment that the desktops were so far
>>> behind
>>>>
>>>> current tech.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyone making a purchase of a MacPro recently has faced a serious decision
>>> in
>>>>
>>>> terms of value. I've been forced to buy MacPro's recently but only because
>>> of
>>>>
>>>> the need for fiber for storage, video i/o and other needs that require
>>> pcie
>>>>
>>>> cards.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> However, if video i/o and fast storage were possible via
>>> lightpeek/thunderbolt,
>>>>
>>>> I certainly would have bought an iMac. My guess is that the same is true
>>> for
>>>>
>>>> many (not all) of the current MacPro user base.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It remains to be seen how widely lightpeek/thunderbolt will be adopted,
>>> and how
>>>>
>>>> well it works. I would hope that if you can push enough lanes of pcie over
>>> it
>>>>
>>>> you could even hang a pcie-expansion chassis like the cubix off it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If it's robust enough I think the need for desktops would largely
>>> disappear.
>>>>
>>>> Would there be lots of people who still need/want desktops and who would
>>> be
>>>>
>>>> pissed off? Of course, but this has never stopped apple from killing what
>>> it
>>>>
>>>> considered to be "legacy" products before (floppy disk, VGA displays,
>>> serial
>>>>
>>>> ports, etc. etc)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Like I said, I have no idea, and this is of course just bs speculation,
>>> but I
>>>>
>>>> don't think it's as crazy as it seems on the surface.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -N'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> p.s.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not saying I think this would be a good thing... I like my Dreamcolor
>>>>
>>>> display... and am not eager to swap it out for a glossy Apple display
>>> built into
>>>>
>>>> an iMac, I'm only suggesting that this seems like it could be possible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 24, 2011, at 4:16 PM, George Loch wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I really don't see this. Can you explain the tea leaves your reading on
>>> this?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -gl
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 1:42 PM, nat jencks<natjencks.lists@...>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I think this is means that in apple's mind desktop's and the macpro
>>> series
>>>>
>>>> are dead.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> I wouldn't be surprised if the current line of MacPro towers is the
>>> last
>>>>
>>>> that are produced by Apple.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> For a while now, Apple has been referring to themselves as a "mobile
>>>>
>>>> computing company".
>>>>
>>>>>> I think they will now be able to make the argument that you can do
>>> anything
>>>>
>>>> with an iMac with thunderbolt that you can do with a MacPro...
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> We will see!
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> -Nat
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2011, at 2:24 PM, Curtis Nichols wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.cfmediaview.com/lp1.aspx?v=6_312740404_18279_18
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Thunderbolt I/O. Article mentions Avid as a partner. Thunderbolt is on
>>> the
>>>>
>>>>>>> newest Apple MacPros.
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Curtis Nichols
>>>>
>>>>>>> Señor Editor
>>>>
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