Saturday, January 29, 2011

[Avid-L2] Re: HDSLR workflow

 

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Oliver Peters <oliverpeters@...> wrote

> Learning is always good, but sometimes you can't beat just playing around with the real thing ;-)

Agreed.
And, thanks very much for your input on this topic.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Oliver Peters <oliverpeters@...> wrote:
>
> > blafarm wrote:
> > Regarding your question, the clients I service THAT DO shoot using HDSLR are largely satisfied with what I am able to deliver within the confines of MC -- in spite of the fact that those toolsets are long-in-the-tooth -- if not downright obsolete.
>
> Agreed. You generally end up finishing within the chosen system, rather than move the project from offline to online on different systems.
>
> > I had thought [mistakenly?] you were saying that MC COULD NOT distill tape name, reel name, source id or camera id that had been embedded into a QT file by QtChange. And if that assumption was true -- it seemed the value proposition of using QtChange with MC was theoretically limited to TC -- which is still a very good thing.
>
> It's an evolving process, because Avid is trying to make a distinction between file-based and tape-based media and their origins. Michael Phillips has done a good job of clarifying this in some of his posts over at RedUser, since the same issues affect RED media. It also seems to be an evolving process, but for now tape ingests and file ingests are treated differently. The metadata is captured, but Michael has warned against "crossing the streams" in these two workflow methods. Unfortunately the 30+ year-old EDL format isn't ideal when you need to move lists and relink (rather than recapture) media. Also unfortunately, sometimes it's a more reliable tool than other (supposedly better) methods, like AAF, AFE, XML, etc.
>
> > I could be mistaken, but in your last post you seem to be implying that source ID or camroll or tape ID are somehow related to TC. Which is a bit confusing as I thought you had said that, aside from TC, embedded QT meta data could not be decoded by MC.
>
> My methodology has evolved in regards to HDSLR media. At first I was looking for AMA and ALE approaches, but I'm trying to not over-think what Avid is trying to do. A QuickTime movie file can carry some metadata, including TC and a source ID. What name you call this varies with the NLE. FCP uses it the same as a tape source. Avid doesn't. It imports it, but places it in a different category. You can also add names into the CamRoll column manually if you wish.
>
> > I suppose I should really just start playing around with QtChange -- but I was hoping to learn how others were using it to their advantage with HDSLR footage.
>
> Learning is always good, but sometimes you can't beat just playing around with the real thing ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Oliver
>

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