Thursday, March 4, 2010

[Avid-L2] Re: Repeated MC4.0.5 crashes. Random but Resilient.

Hi jeff,

A MC v4.0.5.1 patch just came out and fixes quite a lot of issues some of which might be plaguing your setup.

http://www.avid.com/support/downloadcenter/editorPatches.asp

The ReadMe is here:

http://cdn.avid.com/Patches/MediaComposer/ReadMe_v4.0.5.1and_v8.0.5.1.pdf

HTH
marianna

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Drury <jtdgroups@...> wrote:
>
> Actually no. Now that I have finally tracked the bugger down.
>
> I tracked the issue back to partially rendered motion effects. Since
> the Avid treats all the 'off-speed' material in a sequence as
> timewarps, and we were cutting mostly 23.98 material in a 59.94
> sequence...everything was basically a motion effect. The editor would
> render to screen for clients, go back and start trimming and
> slipping..and have a bunch of partially rendered timewarps. Then
> later when he would cut into them or shift them, the system would fall
> apart.
>
> Seems like those renders would go corrupt over time. As soon as I
> opened up the sequence, cleared all renders including motion effects,
> it was fine.
>
> It's always in the last place you look right?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 3, 2010, at 7:48 PM, David Dawkins wrote:
>
> > Corrupt master clips?
> >
> > Jeff Drury wrote:
> > > practically nothing. no significant info in the logs.
> > >
> > > what im finding now is that i can recreate it without the media,
> > so i
> > > can comfortably rule that out. i can literally subclip it down to 3
> > > shots, make the sequence nothing but a couple of captured 23.98
> > shots,
> > > take the media offline...
> > >
> > > and as soon as i cut into the middle of the shot (won't happen if i
> > > overwrite the entire thing) it errors out, crashes, done.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mar 3, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Bogdan Grigoresco wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> Check the Avid Fatal Error reports folder, logs might shed some
> > >> light over the actual issue.
> > >>
> > >> cheers,
> > >> Bogdan Grigoresco
> > >> www.finale.tv
> > >>
> > >> --- On Wed, 3/3/10, Jeff Drury <jtdgroups@...> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> From: Jeff Drury <jtdgroups@...>
> > >> Subject: [Avid-L2] Repeated MC4.0.5 crashes. Random but Resilient.
> > >> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 4:26 PM
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hi All.
> > >>
> > >> Wondering if any one has any further thoughts/insights into a
> > rather
> > >>
> > >> big problem i am having:
> > >>
> > >> Basically, we have a project with a ton of mixed media. There is
> > a lot
> > >>
> > >> of SD dv25 material, a good amount of material at 1080i (dnx145),
> > but
> > >>
> > >> the "hero" footage is at 1080/23.98 (dnx36). Since there were all
> > >>
> > >> these mixed rates, we imagined it best to work at 1080i, even
> > know the
> > >>
> > >> bulk of the cut would be at 23.98.
> > >>
> > >> And for reference, we're cutting commercials here. 30 to 60 seconds
> > >>
> > >> time. 4 video layers max. (one of those being a color effect and
> > the
> > >>
> > >> other being a matte).
> > >>
> > >> However, we found after getting into the project that the media
> > >>
> > >> composer would crash often with segmentation faults while working
> > with
> > >>
> > >> the 59i sequences. The crashes are rather random and happen during
> > >>
> > >> simple editting tasks. Trimming, overwrites, extract/splice in the
> > >>
> > >> timeline. They seem to get more frequent as time goes by.
> > >>
> > >> We have tried, as far as I can imagine, everything. Starting
> > simple,
> > >>
> > >> we changed out the user, project, mcstate and site settings
> > files. The
> > >>
> > >> project was on unity, but we moved that locally. We tried it with
> > an
> > >>
> > >> adrenaline connected and without. Our other office tried it with a
> > >>
> > >> nitris. We tried Snow leopard and Leopard. We tried several
> > completely
> > >>
> > >> different computers. Still got the errors.
> > >>
> > >> We've disabled and removed video tracks and audio tracks. Cleared
> > all
> > >>
> > >> the renders, rerendered. Flat out removed every effect we could.
> > >>
> > >> If we unmount the media drives, the problem subsides...but of
> > course
> > >>
> > >> it can be rather difficult to cut when you cant actually see the
> > >>
> > >> footage.
> > >>
> > >> Now that might make you think there is some media corruption issue,
> > >>
> > >> but we have the all of the media local and it was backed up to a
> > >>
> > >> different system immediately after being captured. In the rare case
> > >>
> > >> that I have found actual source media corruption, I have found
> > that it
> > >>
> > >> shows read errors when backing up via retrospect. None of this
> > media
> > >>
> > >> does. It's all clear of errors during copy and further the
> > crashes can
> > >>
> > >> happen practically anywhere. No particilar clip fails alone. We
> > also
> > >>
> > >> loaded the backup drive on to another computer, same issues.
> > >>
> > >> And no these are not FireWire drives either. Internal Sata.
> > >>
> > >> So, what has worked?
> > >>
> > >> So far...
> > >>
> > >> Since most of the current media being used was still 23.98 we
> > deleted
> > >>
> > >> the mattes and modified the sequences over to 23.98. Created a new
> > >>
> > >> project at 23.98 and are working from there. It took a good
> > amount of
> > >>
> > >> time to get all we needed moved over, but it's running. No
> > crashes for
> > >>
> > >> the last 5 hours.
> > >>
> > >> My concern is though, we are going to have to start working with
> > the
> > >>
> > >> 30i and 59i material shortly. It seems rather unkosher to me to
> > try to
> > >>
> > >> work with that at 23.98. We are goin to see how it plays, but it's
> > >>
> > >> widely being seen as an issue.
> > >>
> > >> So, any thoughts? Why are these 59i sequences failing so regularly?
> > >>
> > >> Any way to work around?? I got a partner in the company and 4
> > intense
> > >>
> > >> clients right behind me waiting for an answer to the problem.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks.
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> > --
> > David Dawkins
> > 780-905-9121
> > dawk2@...
> >
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