Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Relink AMA

Good post.

Rupert, would you suggest using AMA for any long term, long form
projects like a feature? This would mean never consolidating the media
to a mediafiles folder.

On the plus side, it can save many hours of prep and transfer time, more
so with multicam dailies.

But is it a good idea? There's a lot to learn about squeezing AMA into
our existing workflows.

I'm curious:
At what point does the AMA process become unproductive due to the
sheer amount of external links/conflicts?
Where are the database files are kept?
Is AMA practical on a SAN with shared media? What about in mixed
PC/MAC environments?
Is it fully functional with software features like scriptsync.

"To consolidate, or not to consolidate - - that is the question."

Anyone pushing the limits of AMA out there who can comment?

RT

Rupert Watson wrote:

>
>
> I dealt with an issue yesterday that happens a lot and so I tell the
> tale here in the hope that someone will pass it on to a shooter or
> client who is embarking on the file based fandango..
>
> The ideal workflow for AMA is to copy the whole contents of the SxS card
> (yes all those apparently useless folders) into a folder named for the
> card; i.e. Card 1, 2 etc.
>
> If you are inclined to dig into the BPAV folder and only copy what looks
> like useful data out, then Avid will not link to it.
>
> The good news is that if you use XDCAM browser to import the MP4 files
> it will recreate the BPAV structure and Avid will be prepared to link to
> it.
>
> So you should end up with a folder in the root of the drive you are
> copying camera data to called "My Project" and in there a folder per
> card shot. Now in Avid you link to AMA and select the "My Project"
> folder and select the "Bin per subfolder" option you will have a load of
> Bins spawned (with yellow masterclips in them) called Card 1, Card 2 and
> so on.
>
> It's magical the first time you see ten hours of rushes appear ready to
> edit in thirty seconds.
>
> Rupert Watson
>
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> From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> Behalf
> Of johnrobmoore
> Sent: 06 February 2010 00:29
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Relink AMA
>
> Having not had any AMA stuff yet what actually happens when you go
> through the link to AMA volumes? Are new bins created for each volume or
> do the existing bins just relink during the process?
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "Rupert Watson" <rupert@...> wrote:
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > as I understand it the AMA link is created as a function of the UNC
> path at which the virtual volume is found.
> >
> > If, for whatever reason, the relationship between the editing computer
> and the disk on which the virtual volumes is changed, the UNC path will
> change. In this instance the AMA link will be broken, but as you say the
> media is found again as soon as you go throught the link to AMA process
> again on the file menu.
> >
> > Rupert Watson
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> on
> behalf of Greg Huson
> > Sent: Fri 2/5/2010 10:43 PM
> > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Relink AMA
> >
> > No, not frequent enough to really be a pain. And it's simple enough
> > to re-establish the link, unless you have a month's worth of 'virtual
> > cards.' That takes a while to re-ama all those, even as fast as that
> > process is.
> >
> > I'm not sure it's a 'bug' yet - possibly just a dark spot in my
> > understanding...
> >
> > gh
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > Greg Huson
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> > Post Production / Production
> > Culver City, CA
> > 323 677 2092
> > 323 677 2096 F
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> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 5, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Raj Rodrigues wrote:
> >
> > > Is this frequent enough to be a PITA? What build of sw/hw are you
> > > on? Does
> > > Avid know? Luckily we haven't seen any of this around here as yet.
> > > Good to
> > > know though.
> > >
> > > Raj
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Greg Huson <Greg@...> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Is there a way to 'relink' to AMA? We've noticed even when on local
> > >> storage, sometimes the AMA links get 'lost' and media appears
> > >> offline-
> > >> once the drives have been moved around, or, sometimes, even just
> spun
> > >> down.
> > >>
> > >> I poked around google, cow, avid, etc - I don't see a solution to
> > >> this
> > >> other than doing a new 'link to AMA volume' then deleting the new
> bin
> > >> (since the formerly offline clips suddenly know where there footage
>
> > >> is.)
> > >>
> > >> Any tips? - relink doesn't seem to work, even if you point directly
>
> > >> to
> > >> the folder (as suggested in the workflow pdf.)
> > >>
> > >> gh
> > >> ----------------------------------------------------
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