Saturday, January 9, 2010

Re: [Avid-L2] Mixing 1080p and I

Yes it basically does a motion FX and apply a pulldown. Avid tracks the
pulldown for you.

It is similar to using the Fluidmotion FX like this....
http://24p.com/conversion.htm

chris magid wrote:
> Okay. Few questions. Haven't felt this stupid in a while. Still trying to wrap my head around some of this file based stuff.
> The format mixing in the new composer releases certainly adds some flexibility.
> BIG QUESTION: What does it do to 23.97p material cut into a 60i timeline. IS IT APPLYING pulldown on the fly? What is the quality of this pulldown? Can you determine the pulldown cadence? And since it has to be doing it on a clip by clip basis how does dissolves between two clips with "motion adapters"?
> That is my main concern. I want clients to shoot 23.97p for the "film look" they love. But the biggest part of that is the look and feel of pulldown.
> What happens with 60i material in a 23.97p project? If this is from a film to tape transfer or other file with pull down already in it can "motion adapters" remove that pulldown?
> What is the performance hit for this?
> Overall we still master to 1080i and 720i. In the past acquisition via tape based cameras added pulldown to 24p material as it was recorded or on capture via tape. Now with file based cameras the material remains 24p on ingest. We still have to mix a lot of the older tape based stuff into edits and graphics created at 60i. So that is why we like to use 60i projects as the common denominator. It is all for broadcast anyway.
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> --- On Sat, 1/9/10, Job ter Burg (L2B) <Job_L2@terburg.com> wrote:
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> From: Job ter Burg (L2B) <Job_L2@terburg.com>
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Mixing 1080p and I
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 3:33 AM
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>> Client shoots 1080p 29.97 on ex3. Has 1080i material on tape too.
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>> Wants 1080i edit and sd 60i broadcast master.
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>> Advice on worflow? Project type? Mixing formats?
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> You own a Symphony, right? So if you bump to v4, you can simply import or
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> capture footage in a matching project type. So the 1080/29p would be
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> I think that 1080/29p is Symphony-only. So if you don't have a Symph, you
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> might need to work around that a bit, by importing it into 1080/60i. There
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