Sunday, November 8, 2009

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: OT: - 23.97 to 30I More now modify sequence in 4.0 to save Pan and Zoom

AUUGGGGG....

Showed it to my wife this morning, who said "why are those old guys so
jittery...."

Guess I have more motivation to go Terry's route now. How hard is it to
go from OS 10.3 to 10.5 on the Mac?

((Then I have to explain to my parents why I wasn't at church this
morning to run the projection system))

Mark


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Terence Curren wrote:
>
>
> Mark,
>
> I got the EDL to work in 4.0. It is worth loading it on your spare Mac
> as you can easily bring stuff in that way. Here is what I did.
>
> Modified a copy of your sequence in the 23.98 project to make it 30
> frame. This mixes down your matte keys. I was then able to open that
> in a 30 frame project.
>
> In the 23.98 project I CMD + D the tape start TC column and selected
> 30 frame as the column to go to. I then exported an EDL selecting 30
> frame TC for source and timeline. I saved out each layer to a separate
> EDL.
>
> I then reopened these EDLs in EDL manager selecting 30 frame project.
> Then made a sequence into the 30 frame project in MC. I cut these on
> an upper track in the converted sequence. This gave the shots in 30
> frame and I was able to scroll along with V1 source TC and V3 (where I
> cut the EDL shots) source TC both up in the TC window. This showed me
> where my TC was correct at the start of the shot. I had to move a few
> frames here and there as the conversion from 23.98 to 30 is not
> guaranteed to be accurate. Then I could drag the 30 frame shots down
> to replace the 23.98 shot below. If you did this all the way through
> the project, you should then be able to take the sequence to your
> older system, decompose and recapture the 30 frame material.
>
> I've sent you a sample of the first few minutes of your sequence to test.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Mark Myers <MarkM@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi John -
> >
> > No problem, I'm just thankful for all the help.
> >
> > Michael and Terry both have the sequence, but it seems that I'm hosed.
> > The problem is that the source material is 30 fps, not 24, ((ok 29.97
> > and not 23.97)) When we run the sequence through the EDL manager, it
> > reformats the clips - as it should - to make them fit the 30 fps
> > project. The problem is that since the source material is actually
> > 30fps, it won't recognize the tapes to redigtize.
> >
> > Where I'm at now, is I dumped the entire sequence to a DVCam tape, and
> > then pulled it back into a 30fps project. I'm going through by eye and
> > replacing the b-roll that is a problem. Fortunately most of the program
> > is talking heads, and the pan and zoom effects, so its not a huge job.
> >
> > I can't put 4.0 on my machine because it doesn't even come close to the
> > specs, I was trying to wait until the new Mac's come out before
> upgrading.
> >
> > Again, thanks everyone for all the help. For some reason I'm feeling
> > like running out for some take out chicken while this next segment
> > renders.....
> >
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/7/09 9:09 PM, johnrobmoore wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry for the rebroadcast of something already suggested. I was just
> > > catching up on the thread. But since I'm here funny thing happened at
> > > the dog park this morning. Somebody released a bunch of sacraficial
> > > chickens and the dogs went crazy. I was soooo distressed I had to go
> > > to OKI dog. Coincidence? I think not. ;-)
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Isn't one of the new wonderments of Avid 4.0. the ability to throw
> > > the 23.98 timeline onto a 29.97 sequence and then modify so the
> > > effects will translate. I know the root of the problem is that the
> > > stutter induced by capturing into a 23.98 of 30 I material means you
> > > are going to have to recapture but if you modify the sequence won't
> > > the pan and zoom effects not need to be rebuilt? That would save some
> > > time. I know the edl route is causing you grief but the above
> > > mentioned steps should preserve the effects. I have not tried this
> but
> > > in theory and in reading the list the effects should get modified to
> > > the new frame rate. Matte keys are a seperate issue. See the thread
> > > from about a week ago. If you don't have 4.0 maybe the 30 day trial
> > > period might be a possibility to get you through the weekend. If it's
> > > any consoulation I'm at work too with a last minute fix for a show
> > > that airs nationally tomorrow night. We knew of the issue Tuesday but
> > > it took till Saturday morn ing to get a network decision. Oh show
> > > business.
> > >
> > >
> >
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> >
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