Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Way to "live"review cuts?

a little declaration of love to the process, to the profession - if you'd like to liosten, read:

Editing is a creative, _frame-based_ <-!, process - imho. A better word might be: "Montague"

Everything that can be done "over interwebs" is lacking _the depth_ of what an editor is doing.

"Looks fine to me!" and " the Client loves it" might do make the cut, in terms spoken, but - does not make an edit: a proper one. 

In my humble opinion: a montague, the editing can't be valued if we (or: some) choose an online review version. At least: not where I come from (historically, not location).

There, we were pushing/pulling frames to the exact moment. This is the "montague"., the edit. I do not, sincerely and at least for now: see this on any online solution equally given so far.

An edit does not just work "works" - any, every edit does do the film. All those make the montague of any. And if one edit is not well placed… well, the "producer/s", the "client/s" might like but - but, hence, no:

this is not "montage", this is not editing, this is - sorry to say: "just 'cutting'".

My stand is: the "montage" of a, any, film,/movie/documentary/ yeah: even News: should be _the craft_ of either educated and/or (maybe: just:) experienced people.

Followed by "editing" of a concept. But what I never want to see is "a Cutter".

Worst case scenario, an AI which just assembles pictures.

So.

If we are looking in 2022 at some sort of remote "montage", "editing" - this will never never support that story's individual progress, drift, message.

As like a Cutter will not be able to decipher the inner meaning of a film (et. al.).

Not in 2022. Maybe: later. (Be aware, folks!)

But for now: we need those people, pushing and pulling one frame at a  time to make the story being told. We need "Montague", well, maybe, by different languages: "editing" - what we, what a "good film" needs is: not a cutter.

And what can be achieved over IP: is cutting. Not montage, not editing.

Again:

me, me two (any currencies)

Jochen "Jo" Hermann

filter Media Postproduction

Salzburg, Austria

On 29. Mar 2022, at 21:34, Jo's Mailinglists <lists@filter-media.net> wrote:

Hey folks,

I seriously understand the question, however: there's a meme for this:

(dunno if this works)

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alt link: <http://designothingness.net/www_pics/EditorsSlap.jpg>

my too Rubls. {sic!}

Cheers!

Jochen "Jo" Hermann

filter Media Postproduction

Salzburg, Austria

On 29. Mar 2022, at 20:47, Mark Spano <cutandcover@gmail.com> wrote:

TeamViewer works but is not free for something like this. You could use Google Remote Desktop. You might not like the remote screen responsiveness or resolution though. Or on a Mac, roll your own with built in ssh tunnelling with VNC…

Other stuff that is paid for works a lot better with limited bandwidth.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 2:18 PM bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:

Vlc sync play?

Bouke

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Op 29 mrt. 2022 om 20:14 heeft danlist@bestmail.us het volgende geschreven:

Hi All,

I imagine many have been in this spot. I am working with another editor remotely.

Without being in the same room, it would be helpful to watch down sections of a doc we are working on so that either of us could stop the cut, rewind etc. (so that we can discuss next steps.)  

Is there an inexpensive service that provides that shared control of an uploaded file?

Does something like TeamViewer allow a user in front of the computer and someone remotely connected to both mouse and click?

I only need the capability for two people.

Thanks for any tips,

Dan