Thursday, March 10, 2022

Re: [Avid-L2] Aces and other color managed workflow Production Side to Post?

There are choices in Resolve Color Managed settings Input Color Space ACES (AP0) and ACES (AP1) then for Input Gamma ACEScc and ACEScct.  There are also a myriad of other Color Spaces and Gammas. 
I found this too:

What is IDT and ODT?
IDT (Input Device Transform, now known as the ACES Input Transform) – The IDT takes the original camera data and converts it into the scene linear ACES color space. ... The RRT converts scene referred linear data to an ultrawide display referred data set. The RRT works in combo with the ODT.Oct 1, 2016

It seems that various softwares will export EXR files in ACES (AP0)

Here is something else to add to the alphabet soup of color managment:

"At our studio we have an ACES pipeline, still under development though. We convert footage on set to ACES conformed EXR:s throught Colorfront Express Dailies. They say that they convert the files into ACEScc to be able to do color work on them. But when I render them, without any ODT, they should be transcoded to AP0 shouldn´t they? It´s the same in Resolve. The color science is ACEScc but if rendered into EXR:s without any ODT should give me files in AP0 shouldn´t it?

The way I get it ACEScc, ACEScct, ACEScg is just working color spaces or color science. All the real data is always in AP0.

The problem is, if the software really converts the file into ACEScc then everything is just wasted and also if it does convert it then I would have to render to two online paths, one with ACEScc for grading, and one with ACEScg for vfx.

Please tell me someone that all ACES conformed EXR:s without any ODT rendered from any software is always, by standard in linear AP0 color space. And that ACEScc or ACES cg is kind of a virtual color space only used by the software to be able to handle the ACES (AP0) color space."

So to start with the basics does anybody know if the cameras provide an ACES transform so the camera video tap is taking the camera image and running it through and ACES transform to display it in Rec 709 SDR for video village or an ACES transform to take the camera image and feed HDR 2084 to a video village HDR monitor?  This would make sense to me.  I would think the theory would be then video village would be seeing something that would be identical (or very close) to what would be seen in Resolve Color managed ACES workflow because the input Color Space and Input Gamma would get the same transform as the on set video tap did.  I'm just speculating out loud but this would make sense to me.

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