Tuesday, August 8, 2017

Re: [Avid-L2] macOS Combo Updates vs. Standard Updates in the App Store?

 

I'm still curious what the incremental combo update results would be compared to running the update install at the app store.  Given I already installed 10.12 it makes sense to run the combo update for the point release I want but would the results be noticeably different from just running the software update in the App Store? 

Also is there any way to find a legacy standard install for 10.12.5, or any other older point release?  For example if I went to get a Sierra OS from scratch now the full installer I would download would give me 10.12.6 not the full install of 10.12 that I downloaded back when the OS first came out.  That's the pain in the arse we all deal with if you don't download a new OS right when it comes out it seems problematic to get a full install for an OS for anything other than the current point release version of the OS.

Bottom line is if I hadn't downloaded the Sierra install when it first came out what would I do to find a full install (not an update) that would allow me to load up 10.12 and update from there?  Fortunately in this case I'm not stuck but I'm sure to miss first releases in the future.

I've also run a utility that makes the installer into a bootable flash drive installer which has worked in the past but then it started to require setting the system clock back to a date before the installer expired.  But lately even with the trick of setting the clock back when I've tried to use the flash stick it balks with some error about not a recognized or valid drive.  I am running the install successfully from a copy if the Sierra Install I copied on my desktop from the Apps folder after initially downloading the Sierra Installer from software updates. 

It really always feels very unprofessional the way Apple makes users jump through hoops to access any legacy OS needs.  It's almost like they only care about selling iPhones etc...

Do you think if I took Tim Cook out for an OKI Dog he could change this to help me and others ;-)






---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <jeff@...> wrote :

Hi John,
Your description - starting with 10.12, then run the combo update for 10.12.5 is exactly how I'd do that update.

The app store will always give you the latest greatest - which is kind of the opposite of what you need for dealing w/ Avid software.


Is there a way to find the standard updates of earlier point releases like 10.12.4 for example?
 

Yup - just google '10.12.4 combo update' and you'll usually end up with the link you need. (just make sure you are downloading from support.apple.com, and not some other site!)

Jeff

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On Aug 8, 2017, at 2:28 AM, John Moore bigfish@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


I just learned more about macOS Combo updates.  I downloaded the original Sierra installer when it first came out so when I ran it for my recent GPU install I ended up with macOS 10.12.  Avid likes macOS 10.12.5 for the latest Media Composer 8.8.x.  All I could find in the app store update was 10.12.6.  I googled around and found this link for older Combo  macOS updates.



I read that the combo update will update through all the necessary point updates so in my case it would take 10.12 to 10.12.1 to 10.12.2 etc... up to 10.12.5 which is my target OS.  IIRC in the past people warned about combo updates but at the time I read that I didn't understand what it meant to be a "combo update"

Most people use the app store I assume.  What would be the real difference in running the combo macOS update for 10.12.6 and running the standard update for 10.12.6 that is currently on the App store.

So far the combo update is the only thing I've found for 10.12.5 which is no longer on the App store.  All the google links I find searching for 10.12.5 update pop up to a 10.12.6 update in the app store.  I understand the incremental nature of the combo update but what would be the difference between me running a 10.12.6 combo update on my now 10.12 macOS and running the standard App Store 10.12.6 update?  Does the standard App Store 10.12.6 miss elements that would be amassed from sequential incremental updates?

What are the practical differences to combo vs. standard update.  According to my initial google combo updates are helpful to system administrator who have to update a number of computers to a common OS point release but the computers may all be starting from different point release versions.  I guess there would be more consistency if all updates were incremental so that any extra code stuff should be more symmetrical in all the computers.

I'm beginning to think that the standard updates are just like the complete install I just did to 10.12 but if I went to update through the app store the full update would have ended up right at 10.12.6 at this time but given I downloaded the installer a long time ago when 10.12 just came out and if I downloaded it now it would start at 10.12.6 with no way to get back to earlier versions.  I know that's why it's suggested to download new macOS's as soon as they come out so you can always start at the beginning and update up to the point release you want.

Is there a way to find the standard updates of earlier point releases like 10.12.4 for example?
 
John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@...


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