Wednesday, August 10, 2016

Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Firefox Browser crashing on several different systems recently?

 

Speaking of Chrome and Flash... Posted on the Chrome blog yesterday:


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Going forward, Chrome will de-emphasize Flash in favor of HTML5. Here's what that means for you.

Today, more than 90% of Flash on the web loads behind the scenes to support things like page analytics. This kind of Flash slows you down, and starting this September, Chrome 53 will begin to block it. HTML5 is much lighter and faster, and publishers are switching over to speed up page loading and save you more battery life. You'll see an improvement in responsiveness and efficiency for many sites.

This is similar to a change we made last September, when some Flash content became click-to-play with Chrome 42. This had an immediate, positive impact for our users by improving page load times and saving battery power.

In December, Chrome 55 will make HTML5 the default experience, except for sites which only support Flash. For those, you'll be prompted to enable Flash when you first visit the site. Aside from that, the only change you'll notice is a safer and more power-efficient browsing experience.
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A couple more paragraphs and comments, etc here:


Oh, and if you're on a Mac and your browser or whole Mac is getting slow and you have a few browser tabs open, check out what Activity Monitor says is using your memory (and perhaps CPU). If you find some website sucking up over a GB of RAM for no good reason, you can kill that page/process in Activity Monitor. Probably old news, but I find I have to do that sometimes when browsing on my 8GB laptop...esp when pages start growing to 3GB for no good reason...


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On Aug 10, 2016, at 2:02 PM, Dave Hogan mactvman@yahoo.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Hello John,

Don't use Firefox myself, and have a very specific strategy behind why I usually use Chrome with Safari as a fallback.  Chrome has built in code for Flash.  You can run any website in Chrome without having to have Flash installed at all on your computer.  Other browsers on Mac require a system level install of Flash to accommodate websites with it.  I have heard it is more secure as well, but I don't know for sure if that is true.

By using Chrome (with auto update) I get the best of both worlds, with the flash vulnerabilities updating quickly in an integrated system.  Having said that, there was a time about a year ago when Chrome caused me memory issues as well.  That's when I did some investigating and started running chrome with auto-update.

Another area that can have a large impact on AVID systems is whether you have GPU/hardware acceleration on in your browser.  It's a setting usually buried in some esoteric part of the browser, but it can have a large impact on the quality of your browsing, memory and other apps.

And finally, back in the day when I managed an in-house facility at Warner Bros. I didn't allow browsers or e-mail programs at all on working AVID systems.  it is a great philosophy to avoid issues.  I would set up basic computers in the edit bays for e-mail and browsing, and keep a share on the network for when you needed to download or upload something to or from the AVID.

Good Luck!

Dave Hogan
Burbank, CA


On Wednesday, August 10, 2016 6:44 AM, "paulsulsky@comcast.net [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Hi,

I'm having the same problems with Firefox and keep getting unresponsive script errors and flash crashes - both macs Yosemite on one, El Capitan on the other.  The Comcast home page and Yahoo are the worst offenders.  I'm certain it's all the little video ads they are inserting.  The script errors reference an ad web address.  I haven't had many problems streaming on a Netflix tab in Firefox.  Netflix uses Streamlight.  The one problem I have occasionally is that it seems either Comcast or Netflix is lowering my video quality on the second or third episode of something I'm watching.

Paul

From: "bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
To: "Avid-L2" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:21:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Firefox Browser crashing on several different systems recently?

 
That's interesting you mentioned a few months ago.  That's probably about the same time I started having typing lags and just this afternoon I left it running idle and again it crashed leaving me with the crash reporter running.  I did find Safari ran without issue all day today.  

I wonder what has changed in firefox to make it sluggish and so unstable.  Having seen this behavior on 3 different mac systems combined with your recent experience and choice seems to validate my experience as not tied to a particular computer issue.  Has Firefox always been a memory hog?  I can't say I've noticed that but I never really monitored it.  I have noticed on my 2009 MBP running 10.6.8 that with my normal startup page with about 10 tabs I can see the computer heat up even when I'm not browsing on any page and when I start scrolling around FB or browsing the CPU temp kicks way up.

Did you determine Firefox was a memory hog by checking out Activity Monitor ram usage?


---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <cutandcover@...> wrote :

I ditched Firefox as well, only a few months ago. It was my browser of
choice, until some changes made it sluggish and memory hog. Chrome is much
better, and I only use Firefox when I need a browser to load a 32-bit
plugin like the Aspera Connect browser plugin.

On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 11:11 PM, Benjamin Hershleder Ben@...
[Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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> John, I ditched Firefox years ago because I was fed-up with the problems,
> and was glad to switch to Chrome….
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> Cheers,
> Benjamin
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> <http://hershleder.com/avid-media-composer-book-by-benjamin-hershleder>
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> On Aug 9, 2016, at 4:00 PM, John Moore bigfish@... [Avid-L2] <
> Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> I've been seeing Firefox crash on several different systems the past month
> or two. In some cases I have updated Firefox but still see the crashes
> happening. I don't usually witness the crashes but with Firefox running in
> the background on my edit systems I end up seeing the crash reporter when I
> bounce out of Avid. This has happened on my work MacPro 10.8.5 and
> 10.9.5, my laptop while at work a MBP running 10.6.8, and my home edit
> system MacPro 10.9.5. I'm also seeing sluggish behavior on multiple
> systems where I type and it takes a few seconds to type out on screen.
> Given it's on several systems I'm beginning to suspect something changed in
> Firefox or maybe some delay due to loading all the banner ads.
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> On my home system it crashed twice while I had a long We Transfer upload
> going. I decided to try Safari and it seemed to be stable and working for
> two hours before I left for work this morning.
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> Anybody seeing this type of behavior? I have on some of the systems
> updated Adobe flash player recently to see if that was a possible cause.
> It dawns on me that background services on Avid might be interacting with
> things but this is just a guess and I am seeing the crashes even without
> Avid running. Curious if anybody has heard anything along these lines.
>
> John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@...
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