Wednesday, March 23, 2016

Re: [Avid-L2] Flakey-ish. Now 8.4.5 vs 8.5X stability and Luts to Color Effect?

 

Thanks for all the details regarding the nvidia drivers.  Can you elaborate as to how one goes about checking which version of driver they are running.  Does this fall under system info from the about this mac?  It's been a while since I played in that sand box.

We have just jumped into a 4K project at work and the AE's just blindly upgraded to 8.5.1 without any insight into stability etc...  Now I'm wondering for my online bay do I want to stick with 8.4.5 for now.  I'm running Mac OS 10.9.5.

On a side note.  We are working with with Panny True 4K 4096x2160 Bt.709 AVC-Intra 4:2:2 material.  In our tests transcoding to DNxHQ and DNxHQX  we found HQ is 8 bitr and HQX is 12 bit.  I can read this in Media Info.  Is there no 10 bit flavor?

Another observation is we applied the Panasonic Vlog Lut that we downloaded from Panasonic site.  We choose not to bake it in to the DNX36 transcodes.  Now that we've multigrouped the 6 cameras we find that cutting into a sequence from the multigroup the shots do not show the LUT.  If we cut in from the original transcoded clips the LUT is there and visible in source monitor and when cut it.  If after cutting into the sequence from multigroups you right click on the sequence and refresh the color adapters then the Luts show up on the multigroup clips.  In tests we see that if a multgroup clip is cut into the timeline and then the timeline color adapters are refreshed the clips show the LUT.  If after you've done that and you go in to a multigroup section and start adding add edits and changing angles in the multigroup clip the changed angles will also show the LUT.  If however you go back and cut in a section from the multigroup clip from the source monitor that new section will not show the LUT until color adapters are refreshed.  So now I'm torn as to what to suggest in offline.  They cut from the multigroup clips so maybe it would be more efficient to put the LUT on an upper track for offline.  I realize that right clicking on the sequence to refresh the color adapters isn't the end of the world but I also think that as they are cutting back and forth every time they make revisions I'm wondering if that will be too upsetting for the creative side of the brain.  I'm am for once not trying to be sarcastic about this but empathetic to the offline process.

I can't boot into my 8.X startup drive now and am on my 6.5.4.7 SNDX so I can't experiment with the LUT functions right now.  Can someone explain to me how the Panny Vlog LUT, which I have successfully installed on my other startup drive can be used as a color correction effect in an upper track.  I know how to right click and apply it to source settings but haven't yet used the feature that allows it to also be made into a color correction effect.  Where is that accessed?



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <pale.edit@...> wrote :

Avid 8.5/now 8.5.1
Mac OSX 10.11.3
Mac Pro 5,1 (2010) 12 core Westmere X 2.93GHZ
(Machine is actually a self processor upgraded 4,1 of 2009 vintage)
32GB RAM
Nvidia GTX 680
AJA Kona LHe Plus

Computer has been very stable with 8.5 under El Capitan.  In fact, I have yet to have a crash using 8.5.x.
Had some stability issues under Yosemite.  Not just with Avid.  With the whole system in general.  Kernel panics, freezes, spontaneous reboots.  All went away with El Capitan.

Some ideas:

I think some random crashes are indirectly caused by Avid App Manager getting stuck in a loop in the background.   Try working without it running, if you are not already doing so.  It does not need to be running constantly.  There is no setting to prevent auto launch, but you can remove the daemons from the system folder and just launch App Man manually on a periodic basis for licensing.

Some have already pointed out that there may be some issues with Nvidia cards. I had some issues I was able to track down to buggy interactions between Nvidia drivers included with MacOSX and Nvidia CUDA packages.  If you have a system that's running well, don't upgrade CUDA as its releases are faster than Mac driver updates released by Apple.  CUDA packages tend to be more in sync with Nvidias own Mac graphics driver releases.   
While under Yosemite, I had better luck with Nvidia's current downloadable Mac driver than the one included with OSX.  With El Capitan, I am once again using the Apple supplied driver.



On Tuesday, March 22, 2016, Greg Huson Greg@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Seeing similar issues in both 10.9.5 and 10.10.5 systems.  

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On Mar 22, 2016, at 19:16, Agustin Goya agustingoya@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Blessed OS versions for MC 8.5.1 are:

Mac OS X
10.9.5
10.10.5
10.11.3
Windows
Win 10 64-bit Pro and Enterprise
Win 8.1 64-bit Pro and Enterprise
Win 7 64-bit Pro SP1

From Version Matrix
http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/compatibility/en267087

HTH


On Tue, Mar 22, 2016, 22:59 Greg Huson Greg@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Interesting.  All our crashy systems are running nVidia.  Hmmm...

Also have notice that the system instability seems to increase following use of the title tool.

GH

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Secret Headquarters, Inc
Greg (at) SecretHQ.com


On Mar 22, 2016, at 18:52, bigfish@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I just remembered that the second system that seems more stable is running some flavor of OS 10.10 so perhaps that has something to do with it.



---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <bigfish@...> wrote :

We just upgraded two stations at work to 8.5.1 Mac OS 10.9 MacPro 12 core 3.33GHz upgraded towers from mid 2012.  One has a GTX-680 and works faster with Resolve on transcodes because of the card.  We have been transcoding Panny True 4K Vlog media of hour long clips to DNX36 for offline.  It has been crashy but the other system we upgraded on the same type of computer was more stable doing the same thing.  The second system has a ATI Radeon HD 5770 GPU.  Don't know why one is more stable than the other but we literally did this yesterday and were transcoding over night.


---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <Greg@...> wrote :

I'm having stability issues with 8.5.1 in a few of my Mac installations. Historically, I tend to be out on the 'bleeding edge' with testing, installing competing applications, 3rd party i/o, etc., but for some reason it's growing tiresome in this case.

8.5.1 seems a little more stable than 8.5.

If you are an 8.5.x Mac Pro (tower) user that has a very stable, un-crashy installation(s), I'd love to hear about what graphics cards, drivers, operating system, amount of memory, and i/o devices, etc. you're working with - not to mention the kind of work you do - so I can try some new configurations.

I'm a long-term media composer user and die-hard Avid fan & critic - so this should not be considered Avid-bashing, but, rather, seeking information to help with my particular circumstance.

Discuss!

gh
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