This IS the Avid L2: Re: [Avid-L2] Walter Murch and NLEs

Saturday, October 17, 2015

Re: [Avid-L2] Walter Murch and NLEs

A 5.1 track counts as 6 of your 24 total.

I hear Mike saying "take it to Pro Tools". Yes, Mike, but how can you take more than 24 tracks to Pro Tools? With Media Composer, you can't. I know, that's not really what you're saying. So let's tackle this then: I'm an editor, I made a timeline with 14 audio tracks. I pass this to my Pro Tools mixer via AAF. He starts working, adding tracks as he goes - now it's at around 28 tracks. I then need to post for approval/notes. Ideally, I would ask the mixer to send me back an AAF (28 tracks) that I can import and have our collaborative effort represented in the approval posting. Then I get notes, make changes, send it back to the mixer via AAF, and he continues right where he left off, with all tracks intact. This can't happen in current applications, and it needs to, because this type of workflow happens every day for us. Right now, instead of that easy back and forth, we're doing this: PT mixer bounces out QT of his mix and does the approval posting. We get notes, I address in edit, then give a new AAF (with the original unadulterated audio) to the mixer, and he spends time figuring out what's changed, and has to shift his audio clips around to match my new placement, and figuring out what I've added or taken away. It's wasted energy, big time. Having 64 audio tracks in edit would be a good start. Theoretically though, it should be much higher than that (to accommodate surround tracks and multichannel audio from shoots).

On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 7:54 PM, bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I haven't had occasion to deal with 5.1 Avid audio tracks. Do they count as one track or 6 as far as active channels. In ProTools they have a max limit of "voices" which are active tracks be it the main track or a submaster track etc...

Can I have 24 Avid 5.1 tracks or it only 24 active tracks with a 5.1 track counting as 6 and a stereo track counting as 2 active tracks?

---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <ph@...> wrote :

That's true, but on the other hand, when you start offering 7.1 monitoring to the editor, surely you end up with a lot of tracks very quickly.
I cut with a minimal amount of tracks, but as the edit draws to the end, I add more and more. I've never been limited by the 24 tracks though because I like to be able to see all the tracks at once, without having to scroll and/or make them so narrow that you can't even read their name.

But to be the devil's advocate, in this day and age, it's probably not too complex to allow MC to deal with 99trks and offer Murch and the likes what they want/need?

Pierre

---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <bigfish@...> wrote :

Also Murch wanting more tracks of audio may have a lot to do with his sound editing background and not be representative of most editor's needs. Of course it would be great to have more tracks available but is that really a huge issue for film editors in general. I would think if it takes more than 24 tracks then it's time to send it to the sound department anyways.