Friday, July 3, 2015

Re: [Avid-L2] M-Disc - 100GB Optical Disc with a 1,000 Year Shelf Life

 

The bigger question is;
lets assume you CAN successfully restore the archive of your vital personal project in 10 years... for an idea of how that will feel lets consider an archive from 2005.

We open the archive and get at all the elements.
Cool I have all my Elastic Reality and Matador setups and the whole Avid DS project. I'll just drop this into the mac...

Now what.

That's OK i have all the masters and superless masters in high quality. Hmm wont open. Lets see why - ah now I remember that was the year we used the Microcosm codec amazing lossless 64 bit codec totally future proof and a very efficient way of archiving.

I'll just go grab it. Phew piece of luck Digital Anarchy still exists but cant seem to find a download link. Oh lucky I saved the codec installer in the archive - damn I'm smart. Whats this it won't run in Yosemite?

Long archiving of anything but the master and maybe superless elements is a waste of time. Codecs aside the software to use any setup from just 10 years ago is unlikely to be there, 100 years? Not a chance. Consider the technology of 1915 to now.

As for need I seriously hope mankind has found a better pastime than watching TV by 2115, but lets pretend we haven't.

Whats needed is a universal archival format for sound and images. DPX is what we do for images now, and audio is aiff on LTO6 but short of monochrome separation negatives I have no better ideas.

My average flame job comes out at 220gig these days. Rushes for the KFC job for Myanmar which was the last job i did ran over 1TB. I do like the idea of masters and superless subs per project on a dvd in a nice slick on a shelf in my office though, it appeals to the collector in me. Might get one master a disk once we're shipping 8K.

Last thought though, I do like the idea of Terry's great grandchildren looking at their 64K tv and watching a HD job great grandad cut and being stunned at the quality of the images - 'wow' they say, 'you cant tell the difference from great grandads videos and things shot yesterday'.   :)

Mike

On 7/4/15 8:46 AM, bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] wrote:
 

Well I for one hope that film/media students for the next several centuries will have to study my pioneering work on the 3D swimsuit spectacular back in the mid 80's.  Perhaps scientists in the future can actually figure out how that Clam bikini was held on.  I humbly hope to be known as the "Fish Wipe Master" forget that silly Ken Burns effect a Trout Wipe spans the great expanse of time IMHO.  They may forget what the 300 switcher was but the Fish Wipes it produced will live to swim through pictures long into the future.  So far I've yet to see a digital archive technology worthy of my Fish Wipe Library, but I can always dream can't I?

See what happens when I have to do these darn ProResHQ mixdowns in Avid.  Too much idle hands time.  ;-)



---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <albion@...> wrote :

More generally rhetorical. I just cleaned through 20 years of archival material (was very satisfying). I have a digital archive of most masters, but really I could cull that down to 10% or less if I was as ruthless as I am when I cut for clients.

In thinking about how many major features are made each year (which along with independents is only accelerating), I wonder sometimes how films like Citizen Kane or North By Northwest will fare 50, 100, or 500 years from now. Then extrapolate to almost everything else any of us on this list work on.


On Jul 3, 2015, at 5:34 PM, blafarm@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> What percentage of what you are working on will need to be archived past 10 years?


Not sure this question is directed at me or the members of List.
For me and the spot/promotional work I cut, that number is probably zero.  
For my own projects 'yes' -- I'd like to be able to look back.
But, sadly, the majority of my paid work has a naturally limited shelf life.
That's really why I wrote in my M-DISC piece that I only needed 5-10 years. 




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