This IS the Avid L2: RE: [Avid-L2] FCP to Avid to FCP

Thursday, May 1, 2014

RE: [Avid-L2] FCP to Avid to FCP

The trick here is to completely simplify your sequence before Autoducking it. As if you were preparing for a grade. i.e. remove all effects bar simple resizes, titles, CC etc, drop everything on to V1, make the absolute simplest version of your sequence you can. Let them recreate titles etc in the online. Then autoduck. But yeah, I would hate to be the guys in the online.

Andi

To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
From: pale.edit@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 21:01:36 -0400
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] FCP to Avid to FCP

Let me preface by saying its fairly nuts to try an offline/online workflow. Hard enough to make that work smoothly in an all FCP workflow, nevermind putting Avid into the mix. It's not completely impossible, but there are many places along the line for things to go wrong, as both NLEs handle media very differently.

Are they stringing out the selects in FCP in sequences? If that's all they are doing, it might just work. If there is elaborate bin organization, it will be more complicated to recreate in Avid.

Automatic Duck only does sequences...not bins and project. You can export with or without media. If you need bins, you can export bins from FCP as Batch Lists. You take those lists into Cinema Tools and convert them into ALE files. Avid can import those and get you bins. Whether the bins will actually link to the media is iffy.

Getting back into FCP would work by exporting an AAF from Avid and importing into FCP via Automatic Duck. With fairly simple sequences, things will translate okay, but if you are doing anything involving speed changes, titles and effects, expect the unexpected. Also be aware that both Automatic Duck and FCP 7 have been discontinued for several years. There is no support available for either.

Honestly, I would not go anywhere near this. It would be far simpler to just offline in FCP, if you have any way of getting your hands on it. I've done enough of this to know its a bag of hurt, but your mileage may vary.

On Wednesday, April 30, 2014, Lou Wirth <loutv@mindspring.com> wrote:

I know we've been through this before but I'm now sure how this workflow will go. Have a client who is doing a series, they need me to do a few shows for them. They are a FCP house. Do all their selects in FCP and then edit in lo res, then upres and online and CC all in FCP,. They are asking me to work with the lo res selects and do a full offline that they can bring back into FCP, upres and grade and go to tape.

First question is, can I do a duck export from FCP7 with media to avid to get all the bins and selects into my Avid Symph. 6.5? If so, then I cut away for a few weeks to a final. Then what? Can I export the project as something that FCP can conform to hi res? Not sure how this works.

thanks
Lou
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