This IS the Avid L2: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: SCSI flashback

Friday, November 8, 2013

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: SCSI flashback

Totally agree we old people know wT more etc

It's more that problems actually occurred between things rather than in things. Bad patches, bad reference, few chips on an abvb board needing a squeeze, an ADO or a64 memory card needing to be reseated and so on. If the cmx software stopped working you was just a screwed as now.

Add to that the need to align mechanical tolerances, tip projection, guide height, servos, ado timing, bus levels on a switcher and liking up every tape... Made it seem like you had a greater level of interactive fixing but in reality now all the peripheral inter connectivity is gone we are still in the same boat. If your key machine ceases to tick you have to reboot it.always did always will. It's just less fun when you don't have to flip cntrl halt cntrl boot and laid the absolute loader punch tape...

Or is it more fun?

I miss rolling along the huge desk on my swivel chair to set up a six machine sync roll with 4 channels of ado, 2 channels dvemk2, a chyron roll and 3 supers from caption cameras to be sure but I wouldn't swap the power of smoke, flame, avid, resolve and nuke for anything.

We all look back on the past with fond rose coloured glasses but lets not forget the nights wasted waiting for a d1 to go into record mode at the end of a long Harry session.

I suspect what we all miss isn't the technology at all, but rather the fact that you needed to know so much to be a good online editor that you paid a pile of cash and afforded a ton of respect - special car park space at the front of the building, runners, tape ops and so on.

But look at what we make now. Every show I cut is the best looking video I ever encountered, I can fix most anything that comes up and I still have a balcony, mini bar and coffee machine so it's not so bad.

Mike

On 9 Nov, 2013, at 12:53 am, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

That's an interesting observation. Trying to figure out codec incompatibilities and level shifts and QCing file based material seems much more confusing than adjusting the tracking and skew on a VTR to me. Perhaps that's just because that was mandatory and ingrained in the early time in my career.

What do you think about this? Would the newer generation of editors that grew up in a digital age of firewire without training in those crop circle thingies, a.k.a. vectorscopes, have a harder time learning the stuff we learned early on, or is it harder for the dinosaurs to adopt the new technology?

For me I feel like I use to be able to get under the hood and sort out problems with the big iron but now it's just a reboot or reload of software to rectify many problems. While a reboot solves many a problem there is a part of me that feels like I'm just glossing over the issue. If I had the computer chops to examine the break point traps etc.... then I'd feel closer to the days of yore. In my experience the newer crop of editors tend to lack the trouble shooting experience and as a result often don't even realize there is a problem. By and large they don't know what they need to know on the technical side to analyze and correct issues. Certainly not true in all cases but all too prevalent for my taste.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Mikeparsons.tv" <mikeparsons.tv@...> wrote:
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> What these things generally show is how much less you need to know these days. So it all evens out.
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> > On 8 Nov, 2013, at 7:57 am, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:
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> > "This is doing two things, showing how much I have forgotten over the years,..."
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> > I am reminded of this on a daily basis but as time progresses I find my increment of time has shortened. I regularly see how much I've forgotten just in the course of the day. ;-)
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> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <tcurren@> wrote:
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> > > Thanks for all the leads. I may have one coming, but if not I'll ping Dave and Greg.
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> > > This is doing two things, showing how much I have forgotten over the years, and reminded me how painful SCSI was. :-0
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> > > ---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <mactvman@> wrote:
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> > > I should have the cables you need. How many of each?
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> > > I have 4 ATTO to ultraWide, and 1 UltraWide to UltraWide, and one terminator.
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> > > I can get another UltraWide to UltraWide, but don't know about more terminators. Do you know if the two drives are an array that needs to be mounted simultaneously, or can they do one at a time.
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> > > Dave Hogan
> > > Burbank, CA
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> > > ---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <tcurren@> wrote:
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> > > Client came in with a couple old Avid Ultrawide SCSI drives that we need to get a project off of.
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> > > I have an old W8000 with a built in Ultrawide connector but I don't have the cable to connect it. And I don't know if that will work anyway. I also don't have the requisite SCSI terminator.
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> > > So, are there solutions to go from SCSI Ultrawide to IDE / USB / Firewire, etc.?
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> > > Any other great ideas for getting the data off these drives?
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