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Sunday, July 14, 2013

[Avid-L2] Re: Giving away too much?

Yes I do the online. They will blur in offline to get past network screening notes. Those blurs usually get refined later but they seem to help the network approval process from what I can tell.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, namyrb <namyrb@...> wrote:
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> Are you an online editor? Everywhere I've worked (LA), online usually does
> the blurs. Makes sense since blurs are done after the lock at which point
> most of the editors are onto other episodes... and 99% wouldn't know how.
> Only recently have I seen AEs doing the blurs (because there are WAY TO
> MANY).
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> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 1:33 PM, johnrobmoore <bigfish@...> wrote:
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> > Dialogue Editor? Those don't exist in my world of docmentary,reality and
> > magazine TV. But I do get your point.
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> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "john.maio5011" <jmaio@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I suspect that the real foundation for this is the audience's lack of
> > interest in "quality". Production companies know they can get away with
> > shortcuts when the target demographic doesn't care. All you have to do is
> > look at social media and sites like YouTube to see what people are willing
> > to accept. Blurring doesn't matter much if the prime audience for the show
> > is watching on a smart phone while simultaneously texting their friends -
> > while driving, of course.
> > >
> > > I'd bet the dialog editors sense the same thing. Why pay a person to
> > carefully edit the ambience under the dialog so it sonically makes sense
> > when you can pay a so-called "sound designer" to amp up the "music" track
> > to the point where a viewer can barely make out the dialog anyway. Cut in
> > enough sex scenes and dialog hardly matters anymore. Many episodic TV shows
> > fall into this category these days.
> > >
> > > Yeah the world is changing but will it be for the better?
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, John Moore <bigfish@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just wanted to run something up the flag pole. On a series I work on
> > the decision was made to have the AEs start doing the blurring. Not to
> > blow my own horn but over the years I've refined my Avid blurring and can
> > do a reasonable job in a reasonable time. No one asked me if I minded
> > having the AEs do the blurs and so it goes. I liken it to telling the
> > carpenter working on your home that he can do the main build but when it
> > comes to the final trim and finish carpentry we're going to bring in
> > somebody with less experience and works cheaper. Now I do resent that my
> > name is listed as the online/colorist and the show now has what are in my
> > opinion sub par blurs etc... Of course it's a money decision made by
> > people who don't pride themselves in the actual look of the show but rather
> > in the bottom line costs.
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> > > > A recent episode was very blur intensive and the AE spent 3 days
> > blurring the show. When we screened it I warned the producers there may be
> > some blur tweaking needed. When we watched it down the Post Super asked if
> > the AE's blurring had gone downhill and then he asked if I would mind
> > teaching him how to do blurs. Well I didn't really respond to that
> > question but I'm curious how other list members handle these types of
> > situations. In essence I'm being asked to train someone to do my job and
> > take money out of my own pocket. The reality is you get what you pay for
> > and after having an AE spend 3 days on work that I had to completely redo,
> > which took me a day to do, the math seems obvious to me but then I have a
> > vested interest. I have always tried to share knowledge with co workers
> > but to be asked by a Post Supervisor to train someone to do the work for
> > less money just rubs me the wrong way. Am I being too sensitive here or
> > perhaps too
> > > > realistic? I see this trend extending way beyond my specific
> > situation and it is a sorry state of the current climate in Post Production.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not slamming my AE but he's put in a situation where he's never
> > been trained and is expected to do a task that despite what management
> > thinks is pretty difficult to do right. Of course lowering the standards
> > along the way to save money is the reality of today's world and I don't see
> > that slowing down. Too bad I gave up drinking now might be a good time.
> > ;-)
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> > > >
> > > > John Moore
> > > > Barking Trout Productions
> > > > Studio City, CA
> > > > bigfish@
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