Sunday, July 28, 2013

[Avid-L2] Re: Avid Seg AAF'd to Resolve for transcoding then .mov export skips frames?

 

After last weeks Blackmagic event in Burbank two of the Davinci engineers spoke with me and they made the mistake of giving me their contact info. I have been sending all these posts to them directly and they have a sample of our aaf.

I'm just not sure when to start sending them OKI Dog posts. ;-)

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, John Pale <pale.edit@...> wrote:
>
> Please make sure you are in contact with Blackmagic with your observations.
> They are usually pretty good about fixing stuff once the problem can be
> identified and reproduced.
>
> On Sunday, July 28, 2013, Greg Huson wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > I remember seeing that in Resolve with... something. Can't remember what
> > or how I solved it, so my memory's as useful to you as it is to me. Are you
> > selecting "handle mixed frame rates' before loading any footage and the
> > aaf? I wanna say I was having the same problem, but using XML, and that
> > fixed it, but I could be forgetting some other detail- that was during v8
> > which seems ancient history now.
> >
> > 'Handle mixed frame rates' does solve a lot of problems.
> >
> > GH
> > ----------------------------
> > Greg Huson
> > Chief, Secret Headquarters, Inc
> > 323 677 2092
> > SecretHQ.com
> > DigitalServiceStation.com
> >
> > On Jul 28, 2013, at 0:33, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:
> >
> > > I just wanted to update everyone on something I've discovered about our
> > skipping
> > > frames with an aaf import from Avid to Resolve 9.1.5. It seems it's not
> > a skip
> > > every so often but a skip in every shot somewhere in the middle when we
> > import
> > > an aaf. I tried the same sequence using an edl and we do not get the
> > skipped
> > > frames. I would now speculate this might have to do with the aaf being
> > > interpreted as if the outpoint of the source time code is inclusive when
> > in fact
> > > it is exclusive. I seem to recall a setting related to edls being
> > interpreted
> > > as inclusive or exclusive but I can't seem to find it again in Resolve.
> > Am I
> > > misremembering this setting? Perhaps I am confusing the inclusive vs.
> > exclusive
> > > setting with Red Cine X Pro.
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, John Moore <bigfish@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This one hour show was offlined in Avid using downconverts from
> > multiple Red Epics. The finished offline sequence was decomposed in avid
> > and then stringouts of the reels were made into timelines to facilitate
> > exporting aafs of the string outs linked to the origial R3D files. This was
> > done to transcode the need footage to DNX 220. Apparently the AE could not
> > get his Avid 6.x to do the transcodes from ama linked R3D files. My similar
> > system does but his doesn't. So the transcodes were done in Resolve. I'm
> > not sure if those transcodes were then linked back up in Avid and a new aaf
> > of the timeline was sent to Resolve for color correction but that is my
> > guess at this point. The problem we are seeing now is that the .mov in
> > ProresHQ exported from Resolve of the final show is skipping frames ever
> > minute or so. These are a complete skipped frames that I have confirmed are
> > not skipped on the original R3D files. My gut feels like something is
> > > > going on between 29.97 and true 30. The footage was shot 29.97P but
> > I'm wondering if in one of the myriad of transcodes there could have been
> > some link in the chain that was trying to in essence frame rate convert and
> > thereby caused the skipping frame every so often. I stepped through field
> > by field or Psf by Psf to be more accurate and it's definately skipping
> > over a complete frame. Nothing like a frame being doubled up it's a missing
> > frame that exists in the original. Anybody seen this type of behavior? I
> > was not involved in the workflow so I'm trying to back engineer something
> > that hasn't really been engineered from the start. TIA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > John Moore
> > > > Barking Trout Productions
> > > > Studio City, CA
> > > > bigfish@
> > > >
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