This IS the Avid L2: [Avid-L2] Re: Turnaround edit suggestions?

Monday, November 26, 2012

[Avid-L2] Re: Turnaround edit suggestions?

Thanks for that John. Time to look at Editware again.... Maybe with an Abekas Mira for a full 2002 experience.

Anyone using FastTrack in anger that can chime in?

IP Edit has a bit of a logarithmic learning curve. It can control external switchers, but only via GPI so it's a bit clunky, it does mixes (and wipes!) internally. Captions have to be done externally but can 'replace' that part of the timeline.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:
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> Here's what I heard from the Editware FastTrack folks:
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> John,
> I have no first hand experience with the IP Edit. I did just watch their tutorial on their web site, and found it pretty cool for basic editing functions with the server. The Fastrack is much more powerful, and therefore the learning curve a bit longer. While I like the ability to transition directly within their App, Fastrack does not have the limitations of not controlling external devices or being limited to EVS servers. It's a trade-off, and depends on your requirements. Our newly designed interface which we hope to introduce late January, will be more `Freelance Friendly', with a new keyboard and `on-screen' GUI, making it much more user friendly. We do control the internal mixer and switcher of the Summit servers, and will be adding this capability to our EVS control. We also have a companion NLE proxy editor for the Omneon and K2 servers which interfaces directly to the Fastrack, and our own internal FastLog database which now interfaces directly with the Reel Edit MediaDB (used at Dr. Phil and others) MAMS, as well as other SQL databases. As a side note, Fastrack was used by EVS at the New York networks as the front-end for their Edit-2-Air system used to record and fix errors in the News while it was still being recorded so that it would be ready for rebroadcast to the next time zone 40 seconds later. We can also edit directly into a clip or show that is being played to air. This is what they sold before their IP Edit was completed.
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> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
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> > The folks at Editware have their FastTrack editor that will work with EVS and do the same type of functions. I'm not sure if that would also require a switcher and audio board to do this.
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> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "jeffsengpiehl" <jeffsengpiehl@> wrote:
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> > > Tight turnarounds always cause profanity.... :-D
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
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> > > > "Think wardrobe malfunctions, camera fixes, profanity, inserting commercial time,
> > > > tightening awards shows etc etc."
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> > > > But that's what makes it "LIVE." When the band is trying to play off a long winded star on the Oscars that's half the fun.
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> > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "trevatpc" <trevatpc@> wrote:
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> > > > > Good to know pipeline as an alternative to airspeed or EVS. The quad cards from black magic and matrox look interesting too.
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> > > > > The heart of the very short turnaround is being able to make reasonably complicated video or audio segments whilst a segment is airing. With ipedit, as long as the edit is made and ready for air it can be committed to the on-air play out down to 5 seconds before it airs.
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> > > > > Think wardrobe malfunctions, camera fixes, profanity, inserting commercial time, tightening awards shows etc etc. 'live' but fixable.
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> > > > > Did I say I was impressed? (And I've been doing turnaround since 1990)
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> > > > > EVS do a good job of making it, a not so good job of selling it.
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> > > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "jesseg132001" <jesseg132001@> wrote:
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> > > > > > I have done several live "truck show" type edits.
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> > > > > > For fast turnaround Telestream Pipeline was used. It worked well and we could start editing moments after the fact. These were FCP installs but Pipeline can record DNX so should work for Avid as well.
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> > > > > > Turnarounds were not as tight as you're describing - sounds like you'd want multiple rooms/editors.
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> > > > > > Good luck.
> > > > > > Jesse
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> > > > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "trevatpc" <trevatpc@> wrote:
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> > > > > > > It's a lively and learned discussion here so I'd appreciate how anyone else might approach the following scenario.
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> > > > > > > live music show starts at 8.45pm for international broadcast - continuous 2 hr+ show
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> > > > > > > domestic tx delayed start at 9pm with it's own open and 6 x 4'45" breaks to be inserted (with in and out bumpers). Part break timings may change during tx.
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> > > > > > > Some internal edits to be made for timing / legal as necessary - quite possibly during the tx of the part itself. Live international with credits could finish between 1040 and 11pm, domestic tx off-air must be 1110-1118 pm, so may have to lose time in final parts to land the plane.
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> > > > > > > 1080i HD 5.1 discrete audio
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> > > > > > > With avid or fcp7 I could edit from airspeed or EVS streams and send back completed parts for playback, or even parts in chunks to be assembled by EVS op. but not with just 15 min turnaround. 25minute would be minimum with any safety, and would prob need 3 avids for 7 parts to stand a chance of making air.
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> > > > > > > Can it be done with one editor only? Well it did in rehearsal last night, so I'm hoping it works for tx tonight.
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> > > > > > > What are we using? I'll let you know if it works...
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