Sunday, August 21, 2011

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Closed Caption Q

 

there should not be a delay. The CC info contains text / position data, as
well as the time to put it on screen.
For roll-on, of course there is a delay as the person typing needs time to
do so.
As discussed earlier, there is a special place in hell for people who use
roll-on on non-live shows.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Hullfish" <steve4lists@veralith.com>
To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Closed Caption Q

> Also, I believe that there is a delay between actual "lip sync" and closed
> caption data, so to maintain unbroken cc, you just usually do a wipe to
> preserve the top of the picture to preserve cc, which I have done
> countless times, but if you are trying to copy a specific part of a cc, it
> is NOT synced exactly with the audio to which it refers. It's off by a few
> seconds (I'm pretty sure.)
>
> Steve Hullfish
> contributor: www.provideocoalition.com
> author: "The Art and Technique of Digital Color Correction"
>
> On Aug 21, 2011, at 12:13 AM, jeffsengpiehl wrote:
>
>> The replacement shot had the same dialog? Where would it's caption data
>> be made from if not? And it's not clear if only the chunk ON THE TIMELINE
>> you replace is missing the CC info, or you just dropped a fix back onto a
>> Master, and THAT was missing the CC data. If the former, it's a process
>> issue, if the latter, you may not have data to begin with--- hence below.
>>
>> And are you positive you captured the CC data to live in the data track-
>> Page 1042 of the Composer 5.5 Editing guide begins the long winded
>> section of the two methods of working with Captioning data in HD
>> projects. You're talking about the data track method, and the hardware
>> and resolution requirements are very specific for capture, and Data track
>> must be enabled prior to beginning capture? And there is also data
>> mixdown in the "mix" as well.
>>
>> JDS
>>
>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > My limited understanding is you can't change the video without losing
>> > the CC data in Vanc and Hanc. It's supposed to work if you take a
>> > master in and just spit it back out which isn't all that useful. I have
>> > not experimented with the data track and would appreciate any
>> > clarification on how to maintain CC in HD while changing the video.
>> >
>> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "ksirul" <kenavid2@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Symph 5.5.1 Z800
>> > >
>> > > Captured a clip from a 1080i 59.94 master at DNxHD That was
>> > > previously closed captioned. Extracted CC data and it created a data
>> > > track. Changed a video shot underneath the data track with a clip
>> > > that was AMA'd. Output back to tape. The cc on that section is blank.
>> > > What am I missing?
>> > >
>> > > KEN
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
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