Wednesday, September 30, 2009

Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Copyright Resources

I've encountered similar resistance to copyright compliance with a non-profit group in the past. ?They raise funds through small donations from many donors. ?I asked them how they would feel if someone was 'skimming' their donations. ? Chances are the non-profit wouldn't miss a small amount gone missing, but 'skimming' is a polite term for theft. ?Thankfully, they saw the analogy.??


There are man-made laws and then there are the 10 Commandments. ?I think the pastor needs a refresher course.


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Myers <MarkM@SR-Pro.com>
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2009 10:31 am
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] OT: Copyright Resources



For my money, there is no "chances of getting caught" argument. It's a

church, and as a church, we should be doing the ethically correct

thing. It's the same as photocopying sheet music, which is strictly

prohibited.

In this case, the pastor wants to use a YouTube video - public

performance, a violation of terms. The video was created using still

pictures obtained without permission - another violation, and music

synchronized with the pictures - another violation, also used without

permission - another violation.

People seem to understand print issues, but not media ones. Myth #1 -

it's on YouTube, it's OK. No, they just didn't get caught yet. Myth #

2 - We're not charging, we're a non-profit, we make no money,etc, so

It's OK. NO. It just makes it less likely that someone will sue you

unless they are looking for an example. Myth # 3 - our blanket

copyright covers us. No, it just covers playback and/or performance.

It doesn't cover synchronization, or duplication rights, and it most

certainly doesn't cover still images you pull at random from the internet.

I told him that IF I get time between now and Sunday, I will re-create a

new, origional work using images I know we have copyright permission on,

and we'll get someone to do the music live, which is covered by our CCLI

blanket license.

Mark

On 9/30/09 9:01 AM, Quinatwork@aol.com wrote:

>

> The other issue you run into is public performance rights. While there

> should be no problem referring someone to a YouTube URL, actually

> going to it

> during a service constitutes a public performance rather than a personal

> use. This has a much larger chance of causing problems.

>

> This brings us to the "chances of getting caught" argument. A lot of

> copyrighted material gets used without permission because the use is

> too small

> to find and/or prosecute. A small congregation in a rural church will get

> away with a lot more than a Saddleback Christian Church. That's

> because the

> Saddleback is big enough for someone to see something they should be

> getting

> paid for.

>

> Something to share with your pastor, all creative works are

> copyrighted at

> creation (with a small group of exceptions that involve government work).

> You don't have to file anything. The artist holds the copyright unless

> it is

> a work for hire, then the entity writing check owns copyright. There are

> several Fair Use exceptions, none of which apply to worship services.

> If it

> were a class or seminar, then some of the Fair Use clauses could

> apply. But

> I doubt a judge would allow a sermon to qualify as fair use.

>

> If he is insistent, let him/her contact the artist and negotiate

> permission.

>

> Quinton Lee, MIS

> Q.A. Lee Consulting

> Helping People and Technology Work Together

>

> In a message dated 9/29/2009 9:58:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> MarkM@SR-Pro.com <mailto:MarkM%40SR-Pro.com> writes:

>

> This is probably a good group to ask - I need a place to confirm what I

> already know....

>

> As the resident "video professional" I frequently run the video

> projection system in our church. A new pastor is constantly asking to

> use You Tube clips. As a professional, I know these kids don't get

> permission to use the pictures, or the music, let alone get the

> mechanical rights to combine them - but yet the You Tube Police don't

> seem to be acting, especially on the Christian clips, which makes people

> complacent.

>

> Can anyone point me to a place where I can see this spelled out, so it's

> not just coming from me? Right now everyone thinks I'm just being

> neurotic because I can't show them a legal opinion.

>

> Thanks

> Mark

>

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